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Old 9th Aug 2022, 12:27
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Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post
A few people over here seem lost and need directions to a DHL thread.
This forum is pretty quiet. I personally welcome any discussion. Check out some of the American forums and you will see pilots discussing and comparing different contracts, the exact opposite of here. In the UK finding terms and conditions of operators is pretty hard.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 15:52
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Originally Posted by roll_over View Post
This forum is pretty quiet. I personally welcome any discussion. Check out some of the American forums and you will see pilots discussing and comparing different contracts, the exact opposite of here. In the UK finding terms and conditions of operators is pretty hard.
I welcome discussion, in it's proper place so it doesn't spam specific threads.

So we should embrace the anarchy of other forums and just discuss everything, everywhere? Let's just have 1 big group messageboard whilst we're at it.

It's very easy to find terms and conditions if you know where to look, use a search function, or just ask someone.

Check out some of the American forums
No thanks.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 10:14
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Any NTR DEC hear anything yet?

still nothing here.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 10:32
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Very unlikely any DECs will be recruited, let alone NTR.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:12
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Originally Posted by marcus1290 View Post
Very unlikely any DECs will be recruited, let alone NTR.

Is that your opinion, or is that based on facts?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:19
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It’s pretty clear that something in Jet2’s plan has changed. They opened recruitment two and a half months ago, since then most people have heard absolutely nothing (with the exception of those with training qualifications). In the interim, several other airlines have opened recruitment and are progressing with interviews, I wonder how many of those people also had applications in with Jet2 and will now end up elsewhere?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:40
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Has there been a delay with Airbus deliveries, stalling the need for Airbus experience?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 12:14
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Originally Posted by marcus1290 View Post
Very unlikely any DECs will be recruited, let alone NTR.
Not saying youíre wrong but they are still advertising for DEC & NTR. Surely they would at least take the ads down if that was the case?!
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 15:12
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Originally Posted by marcus1290 View Post
Very unlikely any DECs will be recruited, let alone NTR.
Probably unlikely for the Airbus given they're a new operator and will likely want to bring in experience.

But I have been told directly by friends on the inside, that they prefer the right person over the type rating.

That being said I've not heard anything, was previously rated on both 737 & 757 but my ratings have expired
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 15:37
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Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR View Post
Itís pretty clear that something in Jet2ís plan has changed. They opened recruitment two and a half months ago, since then most people have heard absolutely nothing (with the exception of those with training qualifications). In the interim, several other airlines have opened recruitment and are progressing with interviews, I wonder how many of those people also had applications in with Jet2 and will now end up elsewhere?

agreed. I suspect a revision on their required numbers or caution with the industry forecasts.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 16:09
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I have seen the news in UK and it doesnít look great.

But even in June we all knew that a big inflation rise was coming. Can things have changed that much since then? And why leave the ads up to this day?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:52
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Patience.

Last week they sent out the requirements for internal Airbus transfers and fleet plans moving forward. Cliff notes:

All 757s staying for next summer (which is a change to the original retirement plan, probably due to the extension of certain airframes life cycle with the lack of flying during Covid)

Requirement for initial Airbus transfer is previous Airbus experience for FOs and previous Airbus training experience for Captains, this is a significant change I would expect any Airbus DEC will require the same. 757 pilots will have internal priority for Airbus transfers once the retirements kick in, again this is a new but expected development.

Internal command upgrades as always will take place in the winter with assessments ongoing as we speak and upgrades have priority over DECs, I suspect that once they have an idea in a few weeks how many command upgrades they will be offering they will be able to decide how many DECs they need.

Roughly 100 pilots needed which is what I expected rather than the high numbers others were speculating about, this may have been pared back due to the fairly dire economic outlook for the next 18 months.

Also I gather all interviewees end up with an overall score, the top of the list gets offered first regardless of when they interviewed so possibly they are interviewing everyone first and then offering start dates moving down the list.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 20:19
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What's the chance for a non-UK DEC (with Airbus experience) to get hired? I know that fluent english is (obviously) a must, but other than that, do they tend to prefer locals?
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 02:53
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I believe you need the right to live and work in the UK. So that means UK or Irish passport, or visa/residency.
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 02:56
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Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns View Post
Patience.

Last week they sent out the requirements for internal Airbus transfers and fleet plans moving forward. Cliff notes:

All 757s staying for next summer (which is a change to the original retirement plan, probably due to the extension of certain airframes life cycle with the lack of flying during Covid)

Requirement for initial Airbus transfer is previous Airbus experience for FOs and previous Airbus training experience for Captains, this is a significant change I would expect any Airbus DEC will require the same. 757 pilots will have internal priority for Airbus transfers once the retirements kick in, again this is a new but expected development.
Did they say anything about which bases Airbus will be going to?
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 06:02
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Originally Posted by santacruz View Post
Did they say anything about which bases Airbus will be going to?
Manchester and Birmingham initially.
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 21:44
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I know that at one point they were experiencing 1500 applications a day for 100-150 jobs, however I expect a lot of them are Non-UK Licence holders. If you're Airbus rated, you'll be of interest, especially a trainer. There is approx 30 command upgrades in the hold pool, all for winter course, only for 73 and 75. If you're looking for a DEC gig on either of those fleets, I wouldn't hold your breath. Airbus however, they'll be very interested as there has been no delays in the 321 order.

I know that assessments have taken / are taking place and some job offers have already gone out. I only know of NTR/TR 737 FOs being interviewed at the moment.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 05:27
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Hi chaps ,
Long time lurker !
I did the assesment a few weeks ago (FO A321 Rated) , it was super fast from applying to getting the congrats call from Will . First of all is the online testing which tbh are MUCH easier than they used to be ! the personality questions are linked to what you will be asked in the interview .Group exercise was items in a log cabing and its on fire what would you take etc.... just dont be overpowering and listen. The interview was just 2 pilots no HR which was a breath of fresh air ! VERY laid back and is like having a chat with colleagues that I would love to have a day out with .
If you pass the interview then you get booked into the sim later that day. I did it on the 757-200 , I would highly recommend getting microsoft flight sim and getting used to the PFD/ND and the scans . Or if you can afford it go into an actual sim ! Just remember the pitch power is something to behold !! The sim guys are highly experienced and make you feel at ease during the process and will try and help when they can , they dont provide feedback .
I got the phone call the next day saying I passed "very well" and I was in a type rated airbus pool .
My only thought is how long until I get the call ? I havent got anything official saying im in the pool ..... which is slightly concerning
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 16:51
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Originally Posted by Alphamax1 View Post
Hi chaps ,
Long time lurker !
I did the assesment a few weeks ago (FO A321 Rated) , it was super fast from applying to getting the congrats call from Will . First of all is the online testing which tbh are MUCH easier than they used to be ! the personality questions are linked to what you will be asked in the interview .Group exercise was items in a log cabing and its on fire what would you take etc.... just dont be overpowering and listen. The interview was just 2 pilots no HR which was a breath of fresh air ! VERY laid back and is like having a chat with colleagues that I would love to have a day out with .
If you pass the interview then you get booked into the sim later that day. I did it on the 757-200 , I would highly recommend getting microsoft flight sim and getting used to the PFD/ND and the scans . Or if you can afford it go into an actual sim ! Just remember the pitch power is something to behold !! The sim guys are highly experienced and make you feel at ease during the process and will try and help when they can , they dont provide feedback .
I got the phone call the next day saying I passed "very well" and I was in a type rated airbus pool .
My only thought is how long until I get the call ? I havent got anything official saying im in the pool ..... which is slightly concerning
Congratulations AlphaMax!

And thanks for the feedback on the process
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 12:29
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Originally Posted by marcus1290 View Post
I know that at one point they were experiencing 1500 applications a day for 100-150 jobs, however I expect a lot of them are Non-UK Licence holders. If you're Airbus rated, you'll be of interest, especially a trainer. There is approx 30 command upgrades in the hold pool, all for winter course, only for 73 and 75. If you're looking for a DEC gig on either of those fleets, I wouldn't hold your breath. Airbus however, they'll be very interested as there has been no delays in the 321 order.

I know that assessments have taken / are taking place and some job offers have already gone out. I only know of NTR/TR 737 FOs being interviewed at the moment.
are there definitely NTR interviews going on at present?

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