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Old 12th Apr 2019, 16:12
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British Airways 777

Had a look and not seen too much regarding trip lengths on the 777. Anyone know a typical trip length for the Caribbean and US??
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Old 12th Apr 2019, 23:28
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Originally Posted by 3greens_ View Post
Had a look and not seen too much regarding trip lengths on the 777. Anyone know a typical trip length for the Caribbean and US??

Hi,

USA and Caribbean generally tend to be 3 or 4 day trips. Some 5 day Caribbean stuff with shuttles.

Hope this helps.

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Old 13th Apr 2019, 08:42
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Had a look and not seen too much regarding trip lengths on the 777. Anyone know a typical trip length for the Caribbean and US??
Almost all the Caribbean trips are 1 night (min rest) , as a newbie expect to
do 5 maybe even 6 trips a month !! ,
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In addition to Riskybis’ accurate comments expect to do reserve every other month for at least a year to eighteen months whilst you catch up with the reserve points averaged over the rest of the fleet and (with the advent of JSS) work every weekend outside of leave for at least ten years or longer (dependent on long it takes you to reach 50%+ on your respective long haul status list). Don’t be suckered in by the glamour nowadays guys and girls, it’s a bit of a crapshoot being junior on Long Haul and you may even be better off lifestyle wise on SH.

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Thank you all for the info, I will certainly be taking it on board in making my decision, thanks
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 09:59
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If your new in BA I doubt you’ll see much of the Caribbean for the first few years. Gatwick trips very popular. Nice forum name by the way. :-)
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Depends on the length/destination, 3Greens. Gatwick trips are not so popular that they’re not achievable, even at the bottom of the status list. There’s a guy just below me for instance on the status list (76% or so) whose May line is comprised entirely of Gatwick trips. Very valid point that the six day Mauritius and Punta Cana trips are going to be like gold dust however and that the only way you’re gonna see those is if you luck out on reserve if someone literally cannot drag themselves off their death bed.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 10:56
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Hey?
There’s only one 3 day Caribbean, BGI. And even that’s normally 4 day. Oh, and the current 3 day CUN once a week.

But UVF is 5 day with shuttle, ANU is 4 or 5 day, sometimes with shuttle, sometimes without, PUJ is 4 or 5 day, and CUN is normally 4 or 5 day.

Junior FOs can get them (maybe not PUJ too much!), have done a few with new 2 stripers, often by swapping tho.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 11:22
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Originally Posted by Riskybis View Post


Almost all the Caribbean trips are 1 night (min rest) , as a newbie expect to
do 5 maybe even 6 trips a month !! ,
So Riskybis who is telling the truth you or BA_Baracas.........
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 11:41
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I don't want to spoil a fight between you fine folk, especially as I'm not a LGW regular but I've just delved into one of the apps to look at May rosters and I don't see many "out and back" with min rest night stop in the Caribbean, but I can see quite a few junior P2s headed for that part of the world. Some are however doing a lot trips in the month, but not exclusively Caribbean.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 18:44
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Lgw trips are certainly achievable for newer 777 folk. ANU and UVF have become far less desirable for many since hotel changes over the last couple of years. BGI varies. If you want PUJ then you require an act of God. CUN has been a very senior trip but it may change now with the loss of the additional credit and the 3 day rotation.

Places like SJO, BDA and LIM filter quite far down and you are welcome to that late JFK...

MCO and TPA seem to have a group of mid-seniority regulars who must have a Crickets loyalty card by now.

My biggest beef (lgw regular) is the lack of bunks. Only the really long stuff (LIM, MRU) gets an A/C with proper rest facilities. But then that’s a 777 gripe that affects LHR too.

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Old 13th Apr 2019, 20:47
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Joining the 777 as a dep next month, what are the go to destinations for new guys? Thanks!
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 21:02
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Depends what you want - it’s a worldwide fleet. That’s one of the things that makes it a great fleet to be on as if say you hate the Far East, there’s plenty of US stuff to get your teeth into.

As as a general rule, the senior trips are the SIN, PUJ, EZE, CPT, MLE, MRU of this world. The upper half also hoover up the majority of the high credit 3 day/3 crew work. Plenty of good stuff available towards the bottom though - SAN/LAS are achievable at up to 80% from the top. SIN/SYD more junior than that.

Swapping also allows a huge huge amount of control over your lifestyle. The main thing I struggled with in my first 18 months was nearly continuous weekend work. If you’re about to join/considering an offer on the 777 PM and I’m very happy to send you example so of the bottom 5% rosters. Plenty of DEPs coming onto the 777 so you won’t stay on the bottom for long.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 21:38
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Brilliant, thanks!
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As others have said, if you want variety, there is no better fleet probably in many airlines in the world.

Lots of east coast coast and a bit of Middle East for the junior. São Paulo, Shanghai, Beijing and Houston seem to feature a fair bit too, but you will get the odd sweet trip to the Caribbean and Far East, and even the odd Mauritius and Male.

Weekends will feature too, and you’ll be working hard, but it’s a great place to be.

Enjoy the course, hope to fly with you...
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I think I have the crickets loyalty card, good discount in there ....

Sounds like a job for someone under 30 with no life whatsoever ......working all these weekends , waiting for seniority to mature.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 22:04
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Joining the 777 as a dep next month, what are the go to destinations for new guys? Thanks!
Full list as of this month.
AUH
BAH
ABV
ANU
BGI
BDA
ATL
AUS
BLR
BKK
PEK
BOS
EZE
CAI
CUN
CPT
ORD
DFW
DEL
DXB
FLL
HND
HKG
IAH
JED
KIN
KWI
LAS
LIM
MAD
MLE
DME
MRU
BOM
NBO
NAS
JFK
EWR
MCO
PHL
PUJ
RUH
SAN
SFO
SJO
GRU
SEA
PVG
SIN
UVF
SYD
TPA
TLV
YYZ
IAD
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 22:22
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Wot...No sneaky DME day trip ..and for completeness the MAD on that list is a destination but not a slip, the trip construction is usually a block of three sequential days of MAD there and back, "slipping" at LHR..

That "pickyness" aside thats a great list and list shows there is a lot to go at but has been mentioned some of the stuff, such as EZE and the SIN "out and back" tends be senior territory.

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Old 14th Apr 2019, 01:03
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It seems like the longer Nassau trips can go quite far down. They are 6 day trips with a shuttle. I think I’ve even seen a 7 day in April, although there may have been sector swapping involved.
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Old 14th Apr 2019, 09:18
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There are at least a couple of those single shuttle 7 day NAS on the P1 rosters for April so it looks like it's the original construction rather than the result of a swap...

Of course whilst that list of 777 destinations Dupre kindly provided looks wonderful ( which it is) life doesn't quite look so grand when you get the impression BA/JSS want you to operate to all of them...in the same month
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