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Late transfer of UK ATPL

Old 8th Feb 2019, 17:15
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Late transfer of UK ATPL

Hi there,

I hold a UK JAR FCL ATPL which I am not currently using (flying on a full Middle Eastern country licence, probably for the rest of my career).
Iím an EU citizen and wish to keep my options open for the future, just in case.

I started the process to transfer my JAR FCL licence to a UK EASA ATPL with the intention of transferring to an Irish EASA.

What happens if I donít make the deadline?
Iím not concerned about continuity (as I fly in the ME)
but I donít want to have to do the whole licence again in the future if I want to work back in the EU.

Any ideas?


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Old 8th Feb 2019, 18:19
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Any reply you get (including this one) will be mostly speculation. As far as I see it:
1. Brexit postponed - extra time for your transfer to go through
2. Brexit with a deal - effectively remaining in EU until December 2020
3. Brexit no deal - hardest to predict but would hopefully just be a delay in the transfer process. Common sense would say eventually thereíll be an agreement to facilitate transfers but who knows with aviation authorities!
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 21:50
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Many thanks 👍
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 19:16
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As far as I was aware, JAR licenses (max 5 years) should all now be expired? I checked mine thinking it had another 5 years to go, only to realise that it was the RT license that was valid for 10 years!

I was advised by the UK that the deadline to convert to EASA was 2017. Any ratings not current, are dropped on transfer, and that would include IR-SPA privileges in case you would ever need them again.

Also, while the UK have accepted foreign flying recency for renewal for Class/Type Ratings, there have been horror stories that if you haven't completed a UK/JAR/EASA IR renewal/re-validation within the previous 7 years, then you have to sit all the exams again!

I trust others have had better experience with this process, and please update any errors/update in the above. This was all 'gospel' as advised to me by the CAA, as and when it happened, over the last few years.

I held a UK ATPL until it couldn't be renewed any more (issued JAR license, a 'few months' too soon for an EASA license).
I held the JAR ATPL until it also couldn't be renewed.
All ratings renewed (no mandatory training required under JAR for renewal) prior to issue of EASA ATPL.
Now for State of License Issue change, I understand that all ratings need to be revalidated/renewed again - this time mandatory training is required, depending on the interval from last SEP/SEL & MEP/MEL validity.

Depending on your future aviation path, I would recommend an FAA certificate. Should be good enough for any non-EASA jobs, and easy enough to gain recency to re-apply for UK ATPL with all privileges???
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