Thinking of applying to Ryanair direct captain.
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Thinking of applying to Ryanair direct captain.
Hi,
Go easy on me, been a long time since I applied for a job.
Does anyone have any info on the recruitment assessment days and a copy of a typical roster for a captain?
Also, any useful info will greatly be appreciated.
Many thanks
Go easy on me, been a long time since I applied for a job.
Does anyone have any info on the recruitment assessment days and a copy of a typical roster for a captain?
Also, any useful info will greatly be appreciated.
Many thanks
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I can’t offer much advice on recruitment assessment days apart from the fact it’ll be a straight forward interview and sim in either Dublin or Stansted.
Unless you’re on a mobile (floating) base contract, you’ll be on a 5 days on / 4 days off roster. One block of earlies / 4 days off / one block of lates / 4 off etc etc.
For Direct Entry Capt you can have your choice of contract (ie directly employed or agency) and pretty much your choice of base. They may not offer you the base you want but if you make it a condition that you won’t join unless you get it, you probably will.
You’ll fly typically 800-890 hours a year and it’ll be a mix of 2 and 4 sector days. Back to your home base every day with occasionally a week out of your home base which (if you’re directly employed) will mean hotels and transport provided by the company. If you’re an agency contractor you have to sort out accommodation yourself and you receive €30 per scheduled block hour additionally to pay for hotels etc.
Mobile contract is a 5/5 roster and you’ll change base frequently.
Unless you’re on a mobile (floating) base contract, you’ll be on a 5 days on / 4 days off roster. One block of earlies / 4 days off / one block of lates / 4 off etc etc.
For Direct Entry Capt you can have your choice of contract (ie directly employed or agency) and pretty much your choice of base. They may not offer you the base you want but if you make it a condition that you won’t join unless you get it, you probably will.
You’ll fly typically 800-890 hours a year and it’ll be a mix of 2 and 4 sector days. Back to your home base every day with occasionally a week out of your home base which (if you’re directly employed) will mean hotels and transport provided by the company. If you’re an agency contractor you have to sort out accommodation yourself and you receive €30 per scheduled block hour additionally to pay for hotels etc.
Mobile contract is a 5/5 roster and you’ll change base frequently.
Last edited by skyflyer737; 25th January 2019 at 09:10.
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The CLA allows a percentage of new entrants to a base to be direct entry Captains - it’s written in the agreement. Huge growth is still planned and they are still running roadshows worldwide which implies they are desperate for new entrants in the left seat. Granted, the odd base will not be available but I’d bet most are. It’s January, the schedule is quiet and guys are still being asked to work days off. Most applications for unpaid leave seem to have been denied despite the opposite message coming from management.
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Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
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Sick
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
Your career earnings at Ryanair or Easyjet will be much higher,
The much vaunted rostering system at BA seems to be more unstable (unless you've 3000 years seniority and are fortunate enough to be able to pass the class 1 when you're an old man) than the fixed patterns at Easy or Ryan,
Seem to fly as many hours at these gold standard airlines as at Easy or Ryan,
Not many night stops at Easy or Ryan last time I heard,
Need I go on?
To be quite honest I'd like to see the Unions Foxtrot Oscar, they seem to make a bigger bloody mess of things for the pilots than the management!
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Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
Finally a step in the right direction in trying to retain the staff they already have, it’s infuritating to see great guys leaving because they can’t get the base they want, to see DEC coming into those exact same bases.
Last edited by The Foss; 27th January 2019 at 14:22.
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blusdup - you seem to be someone who loves to hate! - but the fact is that for quite some time, there has not been a sufficient supply of FOs ready to upgrade, so DECs haven't hampered anyone. What's more, I'm told that the incident rate, unnecessary diversion/delay/AOG rate, fuel burn, and erm... '"eccentric" and expensive' command decision rate, is much the highest amongst new internal upgrades.
Incidentally I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.
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I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.
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Midnight Cruiser
I do not love to hate, but I could come across as that. I do resent a lot that goes on in our industry, yes.
But lately not so much as I have elevated myself above it, Arrogant one might say!
I can live with that, as I am interested in what is right and what is wrong.
" Empirically I think my info is right" you say!
That statement is logically wrong and so is most of your info, but hey, feel free to make up any info you feel, if that makes you happy!
Some has been waiting a long time for some fair and predictable future in this business.
But lately not so much as I have elevated myself above it, Arrogant one might say!
I can live with that, as I am interested in what is right and what is wrong.
" Empirically I think my info is right" you say!
That statement is logically wrong and so is most of your info, but hey, feel free to make up any info you feel, if that makes you happy!
Some has been waiting a long time for some fair and predictable future in this business.
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act700
If You are asking me , I never did pay a cent for any type rating or any sim course or base training.
Had a 3 year bond once, but stayed on that particular type for 4 years so no issues.
A professional pilot is by definition paid for his work, or am I to old fashioned?
Why are you asking?
Did You?
Had a 3 year bond once, but stayed on that particular type for 4 years so no issues.
A professional pilot is by definition paid for his work, or am I to old fashioned?
Why are you asking?
Did You?
