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Thinking of applying to Ryanair direct captain.

Old 24th Jan 2019, 10:58
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Thinking of applying to Ryanair direct captain.

Hi,

Go easy on me, been a long time since I applied for a job.
Does anyone have any info on the recruitment assessment days and a copy of a typical roster for a captain?

Also, any useful info will greatly be appreciated.

Many thanks
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 07:15
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You are better off contacting them directly
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 08:52
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I canít offer much advice on recruitment assessment days apart from the fact itíll be a straight forward interview and sim in either Dublin or Stansted.

Unless youíre on a mobile (floating) base contract, youíll be on a 5 days on / 4 days off roster. One block of earlies / 4 days off / one block of lates / 4 off etc etc.

For Direct Entry Capt you can have your choice of contract (ie directly employed or agency) and pretty much your choice of base. They may not offer you the base you want but if you make it a condition that you wonít join unless you get it, you probably will.

Youíll fly typically 800-890 hours a year and itíll be a mix of 2 and 4 sector days. Back to your home base every day with occasionally a week out of your home base which (if youíre directly employed) will mean hotels and transport provided by the company. If youíre an agency contractor you have to sort out accommodation yourself and you receive Ä30 per scheduled block hour additionally to pay for hotels etc.

Mobile contract is a 5/5 roster and youíll change base frequently.

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Old 26th Jan 2019, 06:37
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The CLA allows a percentage of new entrants to a base to be direct entry Captains - it’s written in the agreement. Huge growth is still planned and they are still running roadshows worldwide which implies they are desperate for new entrants in the left seat. Granted, the odd base will not be available but I’d bet most are. It’s January, the schedule is quiet and guys are still being asked to work days off. Most applications for unpaid leave seem to have been denied despite the opposite message coming from management.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 09:44
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How much cash does a captain get for working a day off?
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 09:59
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How much cash does a captain get for working a day off?
Varies quite a lot between bases. Some around Ä600 per day. Stansted is £396 at the moment.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 04:39
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A sudden glut of type rated Captains ???....where did these guys come from
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 08:03
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Primera Air?
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 11:54
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Recently met a guy who was a Ryanair DEC, but has quit because he's unable to get the base transfer he needs, due to new rules. I don't know the details but he said the CLA was a real kick in the balls for DECs, and not just WRT transfers). On the plus side, he said things have significantly improved for FOs, particularly when they upgrade.

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 12:17
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Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 12:23
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Wow - nice atmosphere. No wonder the guy quit!

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 12:44
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp View Post
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Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
BA/VS/TCX/TUI etc are 'proper' airlines with 'proper' CLAs.......

Your career earnings at Ryanair or Easyjet will be much higher,

The much vaunted rostering system at BA seems to be more unstable (unless you've 3000 years seniority and are fortunate enough to be able to pass the class 1 when you're an old man) than the fixed patterns at Easy or Ryan,

Seem to fly as many hours at these gold standard airlines as at Easy or Ryan,

Not many night stops at Easy or Ryan last time I heard,

Need I go on?

To be quite honest I'd like to see the Unions Foxtrot Oscar, they seem to make a bigger bloody mess of things for the pilots than the management!
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 12:54
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Same at my place - experts at robbing Peter to pay Paul, but hopeless at achieving anything substantive.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 13:47
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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime View Post
Need I go on?

To be quite honest I'd like to see the Unions Foxtrot Oscar, they seem to make a bigger bloody mess of things for the pilots than the management!
Must be amazing to make that guy richer day by day.

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 14:08
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp View Post
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Finally RYR gets a Union, if it being rather the light version, for now. And the first thing that happen is a DEC starts sobbing and votes with his feet: GOOD!
If You could even imagine how some RYR pilots hate these semi qualified DEC , getting everything served on a plate to them ...
Good riddance
In a proper airline with a proper CLA there is no need for DECs. RYR has plenty of potential CPs. The problem is the smart ones leave, I wonder why?
a point worth considering - base transfers are soon to be done based on date of joining rather than date of request or any other method they felt like using before. So if you are after one of the smaller, over-requested bases donít be fooled into taking one you donít want with a verbal assurance that theyíll do their best to get you your preferred base in a year or so.

Finally a step in the right direction in trying to retain the staff they already have, itís infuritating to see great guys leaving because they canít get the base they want, to see DEC coming into those exact same bases.

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Old 27th Jan 2019, 14:27
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser View Post
blusdup - you seem to be someone who loves to hate! - but the fact is that for quite some time, there has not been a sufficient supply of FOs ready to upgrade, so DECs haven't hampered anyone. What's more, I'm told that the incident rate, unnecessary diversion/delay/AOG rate, fuel burn, and erm... '"eccentric" and expensive' command decision rate, is much the highest amongst new internal upgrades.
Agreed re not enough FOs with command hours to upgrade, but part of the reason for them all leaving is they know they will only be offered undesirable bases, whilst the DEC can generally pick wherever they like.
Incidentally I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 15:13
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I think your info regarding the second part is a bit off, DECs have definitely been causing more issues than internal upgrades unfortunately.
depends on the issues to which you refer, I understand that after 2 years, a DEC is classed as RYR and no longer included in the stats.
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Old 27th Jan 2019, 16:02
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I do not love to hate, but I could come across as that. I do resent a lot that goes on in our industry, yes.
But lately not so much as I have elevated myself above it, Arrogant one might say!
I can live with that, as I am interested in what is right and what is wrong.

" Empirically I think my info is right" you say!
That statement is logically wrong and so is most of your info, but hey, feel free to make up any info you feel, if that makes you happy!
Some has been waiting a long time for some fair and predictable future in this business.
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 10:49
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Quick question, after you got your license(s), did you pay for any part of your job, such as the type rating?
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Old 28th Jan 2019, 17:31
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Originally Posted by act700 View Post
Quick question, after you got your license(s), did you pay for any part of your job, such as the type rating?
you pay for your medical, uniform and every time you jump to the sim for the accommodation, meals and transportation... good luck!
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