Air Berlin filing for bankruptcy?
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From: I wouldn't know.
Any pilot at airberlin that has a linkedin account already got the offer of a direct ryanair contract (not via one of the agencies) at the base he wants, no matter if he is rated or not. In fact, they were the first (of a lot) of interested employers to send that offer. It is however not something most would consider. At the moment the situation looks pretty good for those in the pointy end, less so for those on the ground.
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QATAR is stepping in....
https://www.austrianwings.info/2017/...erlin-piloten/
https://www.austrianwings.info/2017/...erlin-piloten/
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Thomas Cook are searching for more second hand 330's however I doubt that they would take these as they are not Trent engined.
EasyJet will not want the aircraft, just the slots.
Condor could take around 10 A320 series aircraft
The 330's will probably go to Eurowings as will the rest of the 320's.
EasyJet will not want the aircraft, just the slots.
Condor could take around 10 A320 series aircraft
The 330's will probably go to Eurowings as will the rest of the 320's.
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Thomas Cook are searching for more second hand 330's however I doubt that they would take these as they are not Trent engined.
EasyJet will not want the aircraft, just the slots.
Condor could take around 10 A320 series aircraft
The 330's will probably go to Eurowings as will the rest of the 320's.
EasyJet will not want the aircraft, just the slots.
Condor could take around 10 A320 series aircraft
The 330's will probably go to Eurowings as will the rest of the 320's.
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From: Schiphol
About an hour ago the news said that Ryanair had stepped out ... Quoting their CEO... Because they could not get access to the takeover/bidding process...
And repeated the Ryanair claim that the bidding process was rigged and the timing of the bankruptcy declaration being in sync with the German elections.
Both aspects giving an 'asymmetrical' advantage to Lufthansa.
Expectation being that LH would take the best parts and only be limited by German and European anti-trust authorities.
And repeated the Ryanair claim that the bidding process was rigged and the timing of the bankruptcy declaration being in sync with the German elections.
Both aspects giving an 'asymmetrical' advantage to Lufthansa.
Expectation being that LH would take the best parts and only be limited by German and European anti-trust authorities.
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From: I wouldn't know.
Ah well, but everybody who wants has access to the bidding process, apparently currently talks are ongoing with at least 10 different parties, one of which is Lufthansa. MOL as usual was in it for a quick round of press attention in germany.
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From: Schiphol
Same business radio station that i referred to yesterday had an update today. A major German aerospace/airline investor has pulled out of the bidding too. His statement was that he had access like everyone to the process, but refused to sign the required associated non-disclosure agreement.
The station added that probably four out of ten bidders would be left. But bidders probably interested in the same slots. Which suggested that LH at this stage would not bid for the whole company.
The station added that probably four out of ten bidders would be left. But bidders probably interested in the same slots. Which suggested that LH at this stage would not bid for the whole company.
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Apparently AB has cancelled numerous flights today due to many pilots calling in sick... Any more info about this ? What do pilots have to gain precipitating de demise of the company ?
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The union reportedly thinks the rather abrupt winding down of the long haul operation is a way of legally getting rid of the more expensive senior pilots. It is reported that ten of the A330s are now being returned to the leasor Aercap. A meeting between management and pilots ended unhappily yesterday and it appears today's chaos may be connected to that.
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I hate to break it but AB is for all intent and purpose bankrupt. They are just lucky that the German election are impending IMHO.
Not sure the pilots have a really strong negotiation position at this point. Yes the outcome will be painful but some might prefer worse conditions to no job.
Not sure the pilots have a really strong negotiation position at this point. Yes the outcome will be painful but some might prefer worse conditions to no job.
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250 pilots have called in sick, so that would be a lot of job interviews on the same day...
From what is known, the company has refused a deal with the pilots about the conditions of the unavoidable redundancies and as a result, after yesterday's announcement of the end of most longhaul routes in two weeks time that will lead to a first orund of lay-offs, they have called in sick today.
From what is known, the company has refused a deal with the pilots about the conditions of the unavoidable redundancies and as a result, after yesterday's announcement of the end of most longhaul routes in two weeks time that will lead to a first orund of lay-offs, they have called in sick today.