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Q1. Really short because they are very short of TREs, Captains, Senior FOs and cadets.
Q2. They are going to give you the base that you want.
Q3. I think they are going to offer you a Ryanair contract
Q4. Around 13000Eur gross you have to de deduct 40/45% and then you will have your average net salary.
Q2. They are going to give you the base that you want.
Q3. I think they are going to offer you a Ryanair contract
Q4. Around 13000Eur gross you have to de deduct 40/45% and then you will have your average net salary.
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Some hints, Stay flexible!
Q1, It is summer, can take 2 days or 2 months?. TRY!
Q2 Any base is offered that day, not likely you ever see it . UNLESS you make that a dealbreaker.
Q3 No more BF contracts are on offer.
Q4 Yes .You most likely are invited to STC.
SAMCA :.Were do you get 13 000e/month from?. Rubbish.
Ryr has plenty of cadets.
What they need is TRE, DEC, and Inhouse FOs that can be upgraded.
Oh , and I forgot Line Trainers that like stress and peanuts.
Good luck to all.
Q1, It is summer, can take 2 days or 2 months?. TRY!
Q2 Any base is offered that day, not likely you ever see it . UNLESS you make that a dealbreaker.
Q3 No more BF contracts are on offer.
Q4 Yes .You most likely are invited to STC.
SAMCA :.Were do you get 13 000e/month from?. Rubbish.
Ryr has plenty of cadets.
What they need is TRE, DEC, and Inhouse FOs that can be upgraded.
Oh , and I forgot Line Trainers that like stress and peanuts.
Good luck to all.
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All TREs have to be LTCs (unless you've no medical obviously)
Theyre big on the right attitude towards teaching, much more so than previous experience at it. Everyone goes through FRs TRI/TRE course regardless of qualifications.
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That's the way it should be.
What makes me wonder is why FR don't adjust the terms when they seems to be short of commanders. Is it true that FR reduced the bond from 5 to 3 years with that being advertised as "improved terms"?
What makes me wonder is why FR don't adjust the terms when they seems to be short of commanders. Is it true that FR reduced the bond from 5 to 3 years with that being advertised as "improved terms"?
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"Quick" command....
Like some have suggested in the thread, a reality check might be useful for those who think they are in a situation where they can "demand " a command upgrade after their "long" two years experience in the right hand seat.
Command is not only about the tech proficiency they think their "grades" prove they have. Part of the equation is maturity, which by the way increase tech proficiency in many respects. How can a candidate for a position be so assertively judging himself suitable for the said position he has never been in ? Does he really think this is about a Base Captain being nice or not ? Does he genuinely believe such a decision of upgrading individuals to the Captain rank is a light responsibility to shoulder ? Does he think his 2 years experience as an FO grant him a view that equates that of a Base Captain on the matter ? Does he realise what such an agressive way of demanding command tells about his maturity for the job ? Has he ever heard about humility?
I don't expect you SAMCA to understand this post. The way of thinking you show proves objectively you are unable to at the moment. But I sincerely suggest you start digging in that direction.... 2 years... you haven't seen anything yet...
No hard feeling here.. Just a sincere suggestion... Humility and attitude are part of the required skills for this job
Like some have suggested in the thread, a reality check might be useful for those who think they are in a situation where they can "demand " a command upgrade after their "long" two years experience in the right hand seat.
Command is not only about the tech proficiency they think their "grades" prove they have. Part of the equation is maturity, which by the way increase tech proficiency in many respects. How can a candidate for a position be so assertively judging himself suitable for the said position he has never been in ? Does he really think this is about a Base Captain being nice or not ? Does he genuinely believe such a decision of upgrading individuals to the Captain rank is a light responsibility to shoulder ? Does he think his 2 years experience as an FO grant him a view that equates that of a Base Captain on the matter ? Does he realise what such an agressive way of demanding command tells about his maturity for the job ? Has he ever heard about humility?
I don't expect you SAMCA to understand this post. The way of thinking you show proves objectively you are unable to at the moment. But I sincerely suggest you start digging in that direction.... 2 years... you haven't seen anything yet...
No hard feeling here.. Just a sincere suggestion... Humility and attitude are part of the required skills for this job
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Well that is just your opinion. You don't know me, I've been Captain with 25 years old in a executive aviation company.
2 years in the RH seat?, no my friend I flew this airplane in America, from Canada to Uruguay, everysingle country...
Yes it is the responsibility of the Base Captain to recommend us for the CU. Sadly say that people like you do not have the correct perspective In training terms to recommend anybody. As a guidance you take your decition based on personal issues and not professional skills.
Humility? If you are who I think you are, this word is completely out of your dictionary. And you recommend me humility? Everybody knows you, who you are and where you comes from
Anyway I'm going to be happy always as FO or Captain, in this company or another but you are going to be alone in your life and with no friends and collegues in the base where you were BC during long long time.
2 years for me been more than enough time to understand what was going on...
10 years you stayed here and you are alone and completely lost.
2 years in the RH seat?, no my friend I flew this airplane in America, from Canada to Uruguay, everysingle country...
Yes it is the responsibility of the Base Captain to recommend us for the CU. Sadly say that people like you do not have the correct perspective In training terms to recommend anybody. As a guidance you take your decition based on personal issues and not professional skills.
Humility? If you are who I think you are, this word is completely out of your dictionary. And you recommend me humility? Everybody knows you, who you are and where you comes from
Anyway I'm going to be happy always as FO or Captain, in this company or another but you are going to be alone in your life and with no friends and collegues in the base where you were BC during long long time.
2 years for me been more than enough time to understand what was going on...
10 years you stayed here and you are alone and completely lost.
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Oh Dear Simca, not bitter then ?
I resigned from Line Training because of the trainees who thought they were much more competent than they actually were, had an unhealthy egotistical attitude, and who found it difficult to accept home truths (google it) or criticism.
It wasn't worth the stress.
It still isn't. Don't know why I felt the urge to post ......
I resigned from Line Training because of the trainees who thought they were much more competent than they actually were, had an unhealthy egotistical attitude, and who found it difficult to accept home truths (google it) or criticism.
It wasn't worth the stress.
It still isn't. Don't know why I felt the urge to post ......
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Ok Samca
Fair enough. You are experienced.
I am basing my comments only on what you wrote on here and have no connection whatsoever with your company. By the look of it, I am not the only one to have reacted the way I did... So dare I say "food for thought" ?
But at the end of the day, you are certainly right, we don't know each other so my impressions may possibly have been wrong...
However, when things don't happen the way you want them to, looking inside might not be a bad idea...
Demanding command just sounded quite odd to me... Not too sure how demanding harder may work better though... let alone with the Chinese
Anyway... all the best
Cheers
Fair enough. You are experienced.
I am basing my comments only on what you wrote on here and have no connection whatsoever with your company. By the look of it, I am not the only one to have reacted the way I did... So dare I say "food for thought" ?
But at the end of the day, you are certainly right, we don't know each other so my impressions may possibly have been wrong...
However, when things don't happen the way you want them to, looking inside might not be a bad idea...
Demanding command just sounded quite odd to me... Not too sure how demanding harder may work better though... let alone with the Chinese
Anyway... all the best
Cheers
Quick question - Has anybody started at Ryan with a validation of another ICAO licence?Other words without an European Licence.
I remember about ten years ago the Irish CAA did allow that.
I remember about ten years ago the Irish CAA did allow that.
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I'm pretty sure Ryanair only employ EASA license holders now. It is at least a decade since they took non EASA. However the current experience shortage may force Ryanair to address this in one of 2 ways. Increase pilot salaries or employ non EASA keeping salaries down and profits up ! So I'd say hang in there buddy you have more of a chance than a ryr payrise 😉 imho
You sound confident donie, but not sure where you got that.
I flew with an FO yesterday who's been in the company 3 years and joined on a South African ATPL validated by the IAA. He said that validation needed to be renewed every 6 months by the IAA at a cost to him. He's since sat the UK EASA ATPL exams and did the flight test with RYR and is now in possession of the IAA EASA ATPL.
FWIW EASA has only been around for a couple years - far less than a decade
My advice is apply to RYR and you'll find out the actual answer.
I flew with an FO yesterday who's been in the company 3 years and joined on a South African ATPL validated by the IAA. He said that validation needed to be renewed every 6 months by the IAA at a cost to him. He's since sat the UK EASA ATPL exams and did the flight test with RYR and is now in possession of the IAA EASA ATPL.
FWIW EASA has only been around for a couple years - far less than a decade
My advice is apply to RYR and you'll find out the actual answer.
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I have an ICAO licence with B737NG type rating and applied to Ryanair last year. Here's the answer that I got from the guy at McGinley (November 2016):
"Thank you for your application to Ryanair. Presently we are not recruiting type-rated first officers. However, when we do start hiring applicants do need to have an EASA/JAA licence. We would not be able to accept your application if you hold an ICAO licence."
What I heard is that for captains they're accepting non EASA licence but the pilot has two years to convert his/her licence into an EASA one. Don't know if it's true.
"Thank you for your application to Ryanair. Presently we are not recruiting type-rated first officers. However, when we do start hiring applicants do need to have an EASA/JAA licence. We would not be able to accept your application if you hold an ICAO licence."
What I heard is that for captains they're accepting non EASA licence but the pilot has two years to convert his/her licence into an EASA one. Don't know if it's true.
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In my base te BC put you in the program of 10 Euros extra per hour 2 or 3 months before your ground course. We are 3 OCC guys with almost 2 years in the company and lot of experience and don't have this benefict. I sent a query to the company about this issue becouse I think I'm entitled BUT not answer at all.
I got previous experince but not on the B737. Joined with 2000 h+ TT.
I got my +10 E the same day I reached the minimum requirement.
Also they have extended the +10 E program to 1200 h.
Min require to start CU program:
800 h B737 with Ryanair(+one winter season)
1500 h JAR-25
2900 h total time
2 last simchecks with grade good or better.