FAA may reduce required flight time for commercial co-pilots.
The latest thoughts: "national pilot training academy" ? Hmmm, perhaps. But the US already has countless university av training programs accredited by and organized under the umbrella of Aviation Accreditation Board International (AABI). That's a de facto "national pilot training academy".
"partially funded by the airlines" ? That'll be the day ! The USAF appears to have a sense of humor.
“What we are asking for is a comprehensive approach by the nation to get at how to produce the number of pilots we need for our country,” Roberson said. “That could be a national pilot training academy that is partially funded by airlines and industry and the military, as well as anybody else who wants to be a part of that. We produce pilots to a certain standard, and then some go into the military first with a guaranteed follow-on, perhaps, to the airlines. We have to build a construct, as a nation, on how we‘re going to get at producing the number of pilots we need long-term.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...nearly-enough/
"partially funded by the airlines" ? That'll be the day ! The USAF appears to have a sense of humor.
“What we are asking for is a comprehensive approach by the nation to get at how to produce the number of pilots we need for our country,” Roberson said. “That could be a national pilot training academy that is partially funded by airlines and industry and the military, as well as anybody else who wants to be a part of that. We produce pilots to a certain standard, and then some go into the military first with a guaranteed follow-on, perhaps, to the airlines. We have to build a construct, as a nation, on how we‘re going to get at producing the number of pilots we need long-term.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...nearly-enough/
Last edited by bafanguy; 21st Sep 2017 at 10:54.
The latest:
They are still pondering and chatting. Still no comments directly from the airlines (or I've missed them...let me know if I have). No details on the RAA website:
"With the national pilot shortage affecting the Air Force’s fighter and mobility communities as well as commercial partners, the two sides are working together to find compromises to help each other.
Everhart met with the Regional Airline Association’s board of directors Tuesday to discuss the way forward.
One suggestion is to open a national pilot training academy, where civilian and military pilots can do most of their training in simulators.
Everhart, who has accumulated more than 4,500 flight hours, said 80 percent of his C-17 training was done in a simulator.
'I believe it’s higher quality,' he said, adding that pilots can best train for emergency situations in a simulator.
Civilian pilots need to reach 1,500 flying hours, but simulators don’t count toward that. Establishing an academy would change how the airline industry accounts for simulator training and experience."
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y.../?aft-trending
They are still pondering and chatting. Still no comments directly from the airlines (or I've missed them...let me know if I have). No details on the RAA website:
"With the national pilot shortage affecting the Air Force’s fighter and mobility communities as well as commercial partners, the two sides are working together to find compromises to help each other.
Everhart met with the Regional Airline Association’s board of directors Tuesday to discuss the way forward.
One suggestion is to open a national pilot training academy, where civilian and military pilots can do most of their training in simulators.
Everhart, who has accumulated more than 4,500 flight hours, said 80 percent of his C-17 training was done in a simulator.
'I believe it’s higher quality,' he said, adding that pilots can best train for emergency situations in a simulator.
Civilian pilots need to reach 1,500 flying hours, but simulators don’t count toward that. Establishing an academy would change how the airline industry accounts for simulator training and experience."
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y.../?aft-trending
Last edited by bafanguy; 30th Sep 2017 at 15:37.
The latest nonsense salvo:
Recall 1,000 retired USAF pilots to DO WHAT ! Fly ? Sit in a cubicle and shuffle papers while the younger guys go fly ? This is a meaningless story. But then, it's USA Today...so...
“President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...age/785344001/
But, there's even more insight:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fin/785583001/
Recall 1,000 retired USAF pilots to DO WHAT ! Fly ? Sit in a cubicle and shuffle papers while the younger guys go fly ? This is a meaningless story. But then, it's USA Today...so...
“President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...age/785344001/
But, there's even more insight:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fin/785583001/
This may shed a bit more light on the subject but it's still not 100% clear how they intend to use the 1,000. The story leans toward flying desks vs airplanes ?
This was the first version of the recall program:
"Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson in July approved the Voluntary Retired Return to Active Duty Program, which sought 25 retired pilots to return to active duty to fill rated staff positions and help alleviate manning shortages within the pilot community."
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...ention-crisis/
This was the first version of the recall program:
"Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson in July approved the Voluntary Retired Return to Active Duty Program, which sought 25 retired pilots to return to active duty to fill rated staff positions and help alleviate manning shortages within the pilot community."
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...ention-crisis/
Latest installment in the saga.
Gotta hand it to 'em...they're hangin' in there and shakin' the bushes hard:
“The Air Force’s pilot shortage largely stems from the commercial airline industry poaching pilots who serve in the military.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...n-active-duty/
Gotta hand it to 'em...they're hangin' in there and shakin' the bushes hard:
“The Air Force’s pilot shortage largely stems from the commercial airline industry poaching pilots who serve in the military.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...n-active-duty/
The latest recommendation for changing the 1500 hour rules:
" The FAA this week unveiled an Aviation Rulemaking Committee's long-awaited recommendations to modify the 1,500-hour training requirement for first officers."
AviationNews.net
The FAA document. it's only 88 pages so I'm sure you'll read it
:
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...aining_ARC.pdf
" The FAA this week unveiled an Aviation Rulemaking Committee's long-awaited recommendations to modify the 1,500-hour training requirement for first officers."
AviationNews.net
The FAA document. it's only 88 pages so I'm sure you'll read it
:https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...aining_ARC.pdf
The latest on the travails of the USAF and pilot retention:
“The Air Force’s pilot shortage largely stems from a massive hiring wave in the commercial airline industry, which sees the military as fertile recruiting ground.”
"Air Mobility Command — which fears it is on the cusp of its own critical shortfall of pilots — is putting together a program to allow pilots to serve in an aviation-only career path." [well, let's not go off the deep end here
]
“However, the expanded retention bonuses haven’t turned the tide. The 'take rate' — the percentage of eligible pilots accepting retention bonuses — continues to decline, though at a slower rate, according to Air Force data.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...-pilot-crisis/
“The Air Force’s pilot shortage largely stems from a massive hiring wave in the commercial airline industry, which sees the military as fertile recruiting ground.”
"Air Mobility Command — which fears it is on the cusp of its own critical shortfall of pilots — is putting together a program to allow pilots to serve in an aviation-only career path." [well, let's not go off the deep end here
]“However, the expanded retention bonuses haven’t turned the tide. The 'take rate' — the percentage of eligible pilots accepting retention bonuses — continues to decline, though at a slower rate, according to Air Force data.”
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...-pilot-crisis/
Last edited by bafanguy; 7th Nov 2017 at 20:44.
Not much detail in the article but this is the first statement I've seen re how the pilot drain is affecting the USN and USMC. Not sure what "special steps" are:
“The Navy and Marine Corps also are taking special steps to retain more experienced pilots but, so far, those service branches haven’t seen the exodus of mid-career pilots battering the Air Force, particularly its fighter aircraft community.”
https://www.stripes.com/airline-hiri...rtage-1.498140
“The Navy and Marine Corps also are taking special steps to retain more experienced pilots but, so far, those service branches haven’t seen the exodus of mid-career pilots battering the Air Force, particularly its fighter aircraft community.”
https://www.stripes.com/airline-hiri...rtage-1.498140
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The latest nonsense salvo:
Recall 1,000 retired USAF pilots to DO WHAT ! Fly ? Sit in a cubicle and shuffle papers while the younger guys go fly ? This is a meaningless story. But then, it's USA Today...so...
“President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...age/785344001/
But, there's even more insight:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fin/785583001/
Recall 1,000 retired USAF pilots to DO WHAT ! Fly ? Sit in a cubicle and shuffle papers while the younger guys go fly ? This is a meaningless story. But then, it's USA Today...so...
“President Trump signed an executive order Friday allowing the Air Force to recall as many as 1,000 retired pilots to active duty to address a shortage in combat fliers, the White House and Pentagon announced.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...age/785344001/
But, there's even more insight:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fin/785583001/
Sure, I know that part of the deal when you enter the Military is the possibility of recall. Clawing back guys who have already left is something that ought to be reserved for when WWIII breaks out and we're really in dire straits, not for trying to alleviate an administrative failing which is of the Air Force's own making, and has been developing for years with no meaningful action to correct.
AxA,
I think the USAF later said that while they'd been granted the authority to call back 1000, they didn't intend to do that.
This is similar to their earlier threat to use a "stop-loss" order to prevent pilots from separating. Also quickly recanted.
I think the USAF later said that while they'd been granted the authority to call back 1000, they didn't intend to do that.
This is similar to their earlier threat to use a "stop-loss" order to prevent pilots from separating. Also quickly recanted.
