EASY jet strike AMS
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Testpanel,
In the UK the easy pilots are represented by BALPA, in Italy by ANPAC, in Spain by SEPLA, and in France by the SNPL. All of which represent pilots for their national flag carriers as well.
STFU
In the UK the easy pilots are represented by BALPA, in Italy by ANPAC, in Spain by SEPLA, and in France by the SNPL. All of which represent pilots for their national flag carriers as well.
STFU
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Well done to these guys! 
The race to the bottom has to stop somewhere and a company giving worse contracts to crew in other bases while at the same time making record profits should be stopped. If only RYR pilots had this much balls!
And this from a VNV critic!
The race to the bottom has to stop somewhere and a company giving worse contracts to crew in other bases while at the same time making record profits should be stopped. If only RYR pilots had this much balls!
And this from a VNV critic!
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Are they suggesting that the previous strike a couple of weeks ago had no success? It's quick to hold another confrontation.
So the only way for EasyJet to break the strike now is to have full time standby crew in HOTAC in AMS 
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The other strike was broken by flying in scabs
It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.
Not good. Not nice. Not clever.
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From: La Napoule
Wageslave,
You might not like the language, but it's what a lot of people will be thinking. In the past this action largely involved management pilots and cabin crew, volunteers who just want a change of scenery or those crawling the greasy pole. Invariably they are not the people who would ever envisage calling on help from a Union should it be required.
Yes it's a four letter word, and not a nice one. But if the contract had been reasonable in the first place, this wouldn't be happening.
You might not like the language, but it's what a lot of people will be thinking. In the past this action largely involved management pilots and cabin crew, volunteers who just want a change of scenery or those crawling the greasy pole. Invariably they are not the people who would ever envisage calling on help from a Union should it be required.
Yes it's a four letter word, and not a nice one. But if the contract had been reasonable in the first place, this wouldn't be happening.
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Is that sort of 1970s frothing-at-the-mouth-bolshevik dinosaur hate-language really necessary or appropriate today?
It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.
Not good. Not nice. Not clever.
It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.
Not good. Not nice. Not clever.
Amazing how many 'pilots' here are speaking the Management Speak, and are more or less begging to have 'their' T&C slashed whilst actively stabbing real (!) pilots in the back who are fighting for a fair deal. Like turkeys voting for Christmas/Thanksgiving.
Sometimes I really wonder if PPRuNe has been taken over by management paid trolls. Oh, and please don't think that paid trolls in order to influence the dumb masses are some kind of tin-foil conspiracy theory: EU to set up euro-election 'troll patrol' to tackle Eurosceptic surge and Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada.
Back on topic: good for the easyCrews to fight for a fair deal.
Those new contracts are a total disgrace for our industry if you ask me. Last edited by LLuCCiFeR; 1st August 2016 at 18:23.
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Is that sort of 1970s frothing-at-the-mouth-bolshevik dinosaur hate-language really necessary or appropriate today?
It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.
Not good. Not nice. Not clever.
It now sounds even more revolting to my ears than it did back then, especially as now you are calling people who have no choice in the matter vile names like that.
Not good. Not nice. Not clever.
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From: Soon to be out of the EU.
If AMS crews strike then that's wholly at their discretion.
What you morons calling crews 'scabs' need to realise is that under UK law refusing to crew a flight on the grounds that it's to cover industrial action is illegal and will lead to your instant dismissal.
As much as I respect and sympathise with the strikers, my mortgage and the wellbeing of my family, bank balance and career prospects are much more important to me. If I'm assigned an AMS flight that would have been cancelled, then I'm on it wether I like it or not.
The problem in the UK is worsened by the fact that the industry is small here in the UK. What you jolly foreigners don't realise is that airlines in the UK are managed by old RAF squadrons who remain friends and will pass your name round quicker than you could don a pair of clogs. Bang goes your career in the UK. Why the hell should I be banished to the sand pit or dodgy contract work just for the sake of AMS base striking????
Look what happens when you leave a UK airline even on good terms. It's a one way system and in most cases you're black listed. The construction industry here was recently pulled for such actions. The aviation industry still practices it however.
What you morons calling crews 'scabs' need to realise is that under UK law refusing to crew a flight on the grounds that it's to cover industrial action is illegal and will lead to your instant dismissal.
As much as I respect and sympathise with the strikers, my mortgage and the wellbeing of my family, bank balance and career prospects are much more important to me. If I'm assigned an AMS flight that would have been cancelled, then I'm on it wether I like it or not.
The problem in the UK is worsened by the fact that the industry is small here in the UK. What you jolly foreigners don't realise is that airlines in the UK are managed by old RAF squadrons who remain friends and will pass your name round quicker than you could don a pair of clogs. Bang goes your career in the UK. Why the hell should I be banished to the sand pit or dodgy contract work just for the sake of AMS base striking????
Look what happens when you leave a UK airline even on good terms. It's a one way system and in most cases you're black listed. The construction industry here was recently pulled for such actions. The aviation industry still practices it however.
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Why the hell should I be banished to the sand pit or dodgy contract work just for the sake of AMS base striking????
As much as I like Mrs Tatcher I think that the UK rules leave to much desired to protect the works rights to strike. But the nice thing: with Brexit it will be an EU issue rather than a UK issue in the near future and Easyjet with an EU AOC will not be allowed to legally scab strikes
(ps I dont think that the EJ AOC will be in the Netherlands for some reason 
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From: Soon to be out of the EU.
Another tick in the Brexit box for me then. Yet another massive positive. The new EU AOC will not be in the Netherlands. The Netherlands are probably the most likely of any country to launch a life boat from the sinking titanic which is the EUSSR. They'll probably have to up sticks and move again should Nexit occur.
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From: Dublin
What you morons calling crews 'scabs' need to realise is that under UK law refusing to crew a flight on the grounds that it's to cover industrial action is illegal and will lead to your instant dismissal.
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From: uk
Yes....it's even more necessary now. Spineless cowards created this monster. I assume you are management. They do have a choice in the matter. Break the strike and stab your brother in the back or solidarity for better terms and conditions. A senior Delta Captain makes over 300k a year. He also has integrity, morals and abilities that he is appropriately compensated for. Enjoy your turbo diesel Skoda and leave the career to the professionals.
I know its irritating that some countries have the moxie to strike while in the UK no matter how badly our Ts and Cs are eroded we won't and BALPA are as wet as a dishcloth but that's the way it is. Solidarity? In EZY UK? Ha!!! What is this? Short memory syndrome too? If you want to go charging off like Don Quixote to fight someone else's war go right ahead, there are plenty of applicants to fill your position when you've destroyed your career in the name of dogma like the miners did. Not smart.
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I am as pro-unions as it gets, but demanding that a colleague loses his or her job so that you may get a better pay deal is downright ridiculous. UK EZY pilots have no option but to cover those flights if rostered to do so.
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AMS based easy pilots know quite well that their UK colleagues are bound by UK employment law and do not expect for a minute that they go against it. Don't start about scabs because the AMS based easy pilots have no beef at all with UK based easy pilots, only with easy management who say they offer reasonable t&c's but actually don't...
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From: The Winchester
What you morons calling crews 'scabs' need to realise is that under UK law refusing to crew a flight on the grounds that it's to cover industrial action is illegal and will lead to your instant dismissal.
In some European countries you can hold a strike/refuse to work across borders/work to rule at the drop of a hat with reasonable impunity, safe in the knowledge that when your Union say it's OK you can rock back up to work and suffer negligable consequences.
Do that in some other countries and unless you're union has been very clever you're fired for indulging in illegal industrial action, and there's no protection in law. It's yet another example of how European pilots associations are struggling to cope with hard driving pan-European businesses.
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with Brexit it will be an EU issue rather than a UK issue in the near future and Easyjet with an EU AOC will not be allowed to legally scab strikes
It's yet another example of how European pilots associations are struggling to cope with hard driving pan-European businesses.
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