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Jumpseating (Non-Rev) Privileges in Europe

Old 7th Jun 2016, 02:02
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Jumpseating (Non-Rev) Privileges in Europe

I searched old threads but didn't find anything useful. I was wondering if any European airlines (flag carrier or low cost) grants jumpseat (non-revenue) flights for other airline pilots. If not, what about within its own network, ie. can a LH, BA, easyjet etc. pilot fly for free (cabin or jumpseat) on their own flights, like it's done in the U.S.? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 02:37
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I'm not sure about Europe, I don't think it happens there, it doesn't happen in New Zealand nor, so far as I know, Australia.

I think it's peculiar to the US.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 03:53
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There is no such thing as a specific jumpseat pass like in the US, but accepting staff ticket holders for cabin or cockpit jumpseats is pretty common practice (nothing like one in the rear galley between Entebee & Brussels on a 2am flight...). Accepting someone to the cockpit is usually captain's discretion, some airlines are more accommodating in this regard than others, LH and SK in particular never left me behind if there was an available jumpseat anywhere on the plane. The only restriction is the UK where only authorised persons can be in the cockpit, so if you do get a cockpit seat to a flight there, over the channel you are asked to swap places with a flight attendant.


Free/reduced tickets are granted to own and other airlines staff (mostly on seat available basis), there are a number of multilateral agreements in place among network carriers, but low-costs are usually not party to these, they only grant reduced rate travel to own staff.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 05:38
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@ BulePilot - None of your business

@ others - With the footy about to kick off in Euroland, you guys are happy to divulve this sort of information on PPRuNe are you? To someone who's trying to gain access to the flight deck no less.

Real smart.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 06:45
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Clog, there is nothing here that will help someone who wants to get into the FD without authorisation. Its doesnt require much thought as to work out how to get in if an individual really wanted to force his way in.
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Dear oh dear Flying Clog. Are you for real? Still, on the positive side you did give me a good laugh!
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 08:26
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And you pay all the taxes - which from the UK can amount to a fair bit. No such thing as a free ride anymore
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 09:32
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Dear oh dear Flying Clog. Are you for real? Still, on the positive side you did give me a good laugh!

Yes HT, I am for real. Last time I checked.

You're not Austraaylian by any chance are you?
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 10:08
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Flying Clog is correct - who in their right mind would give info about this subject on the world wide web in a rush to answer some strangers 'question'.
Hopefully a mod will be along shortly to bury this somewhere as it isn't even posted in the correct forum.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 11:01
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Flying clog, you exhibit the same sort of security paranoia that is common in the Daily Mail.
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Flying clog, you truly are an Irish fool.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 12:07
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Just to answer the OP's question. As far as I know, if it's a UK registered aircraft, there is NO WAY you are going to get jump-seat authorisation for the flight-deck. That was certainly the case when I was flying, and I wouldn't expect it to have changed. Captains exercising their "discretion" face dismissal.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 12:19
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Yep,forget it in the UK...theyd just arrest you for asking....
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Ask Robbie Savage....and Pablo....you'll hopefully get the idea
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 13:33
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Flying Clog is correct - who in their right mind would give info about this subject on the world wide web in a rush to answer some strangers 'question'.
Because if you knew what you were talking about you would also know that the answer to the question will in no way compromise overall security any more than it already is now!

Have to agree that it's in the wrong forum though.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 18:56
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog View Post
@ others - With the footy about to kick off in Euroland, you guys are happy to divulve this sort of information on PPRuNe are you? To someone who's trying to gain access to the flight deck no less.
To be fair - the OP was talking about a pilot for an airline, getting a jumpseat on a different airline's plane... If they're a pilot then they will have security clearance: whether that means the Captain's 'discretion' should be able to grant OP's pilot a jumpseat, regardless of clearance is another question...
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Old 8th Jun 2016, 02:26
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@crablab - are you familiar with the concept of counterfeiting IDs?

There are plenty of stories out there of fake 'pilots' jump seating on airliners, pulling the wool over the cockpit crew's eyes. And no, I haven't just watched 'Catch me if you can', but just like that, yes.
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Time to close this thread me thinks.
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Old 8th Jun 2016, 06:33
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog View Post
@crablab - are you familiar with the concept of counterfeiting IDs?

There are plenty of stories out there of fake 'pilots' jump seating on airliners, pulling the wool over the cockpit crew's eyes. And no, I haven't just watched 'Catch me if you can', but just like that, yes.
I am aware of that as it happens and I guess I intended this to come under the 'another question' bit of my last post...
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Old 8th Jun 2016, 08:49
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No airline in the UK is going to allow a pilot from another airline on the jumpseat, period. In fact most only allow a jumpseat ride to their own staff, IF travelling for company business and there are no other seats on board, as in no stby ticket travel. Even at this point it is still Captains discretion. So no, it is not possible for a randomer with a fake ID to catch a free ride, overpower two already wary pilots and ruin Flying Clogs trip to Magaluf...
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