Asians in NAS/RYAN/JET2 or some other 737 fleet in Europe?
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Asians in NAS/RYAN/JET2 or some other 737 fleet in Europe?
Have you guys ever seen the asian pilots in European 737 fleet?
I'm looking for 737 capt job through pilotcareercentre website
And I'm Korean 737 capt with English level 5.
I'm looking for 737 capt job through pilotcareercentre website
And I'm Korean 737 capt with English level 5.
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According to present policy in Norway, you shouldn't have any problems to get a job with them. Working permit is not required for flight crew operating on aircraft on Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA.
Also the Norwegian Aviation Authority, Luftfartstilsynet, have waived the 5-year disclosure requirement, presently in force for EU-citizens, for crews outside of EU/3rd country crew (hello security!)
All above is for cabin crew. As long as you hold a JAR/EASA-license, you should be fine, technically speaking.
Also the Norwegian Aviation Authority, Luftfartstilsynet, have waived the 5-year disclosure requirement, presently in force for EU-citizens, for crews outside of EU/3rd country crew (hello security!)
All above is for cabin crew. As long as you hold a JAR/EASA-license, you should be fine, technically speaking.
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SlowAndSilly,
even if the above was true NAS has a seniority list with many scandinavians waiting to return to a nordic base so any 'asian" wanting to join on a Norwegian local contact would have to go through the pain of joining their EU operation at the bottom of the seniority, which means EU passport and license.
even if the above was true NAS has a seniority list with many scandinavians waiting to return to a nordic base so any 'asian" wanting to join on a Norwegian local contact would have to go through the pain of joining their EU operation at the bottom of the seniority, which means EU passport and license.
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Whats the exact meaning of the 'Legal right to work and live'?
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SlowAndSilly,
even if the above was true NAS has a seniority list with many scandinavians waiting to return to a nordic base so any 'asian" wanting to join on a Norwegian local contact would have to go through the pain of joining their EU operation at the bottom of the seniority, which means EU passport and license.
even if the above was true NAS has a seniority list with many scandinavians waiting to return to a nordic base so any 'asian" wanting to join on a Norwegian local contact would have to go through the pain of joining their EU operation at the bottom of the seniority, which means EU passport and license.
Work permit is not enough to apply Ryan?
Whats the exact meaning of the 'Legal right to work and live'?
Whats the exact meaning of the 'Legal right to work and live'?
A slightly more complex answer is that in theory at least a EU passport holder has the unrestricted right to "live and work" in any other EU country ( hence the spread of European nationalities working at the likes of Ryanair, BA, Easyjet)...there are also special cases for certain non-EU states, and some non EU nationals have the right to live and work in the EU due to certain family circumstances/relationships such as being married to an EU national (Hence ExDubhai's comment).
Falling any of the above certain countries might provide a Visa/work permits to individuals who had skills/qualifications that were in short supply.....given the number of suitable qualified EU nationals with ATPLS out of work at the moment I wouldn't fancy your chances of getting a work permit for a position in Europe, but I may well be wrong...
Most parts of the world have similar rules, some are better at enforcing them than others.
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As all the guys before wrote already - EU passport. Or the unrestricted right to work and live in the EU(which requires a work visa - based on the current amount of immigrants make a good guess how likely it is to get that). Point.
It is even written on most application sites, Ryanair for sure, you need to "tick" that box. Otherwise - no way.
Low cost carriers(and the other ones as well) will never get you that permit. Just have a look what we Europeans have to do on our own to join for instance Ryanair(one step is to get your license converted to the IAA - no big deal with EASA, with other ones not soooooo easy I guess).
From an asian point of view not very fair - Europeans all over Asia flying for all carriers, the other way around very hard if not even impossible.
But the world was always like that, not fair and controlled by demand. European demands can easily filled with plenty of well trained local pilots.Some even return from the fabulous ME carriers to pay their tax again just to fly from home.
No offence intended, but that's the way it is. Take the ME as an other example - tons of European down there, in return not so many Arabs flying in Europe.
It is even written on most application sites, Ryanair for sure, you need to "tick" that box. Otherwise - no way.
Low cost carriers(and the other ones as well) will never get you that permit. Just have a look what we Europeans have to do on our own to join for instance Ryanair(one step is to get your license converted to the IAA - no big deal with EASA, with other ones not soooooo easy I guess).
From an asian point of view not very fair - Europeans all over Asia flying for all carriers, the other way around very hard if not even impossible.
But the world was always like that, not fair and controlled by demand. European demands can easily filled with plenty of well trained local pilots.Some even return from the fabulous ME carriers to pay their tax again just to fly from home.
No offence intended, but that's the way it is. Take the ME as an other example - tons of European down there, in return not so many Arabs flying in Europe.
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It's not in the EU but SunExpress or Turkish Airlines would likely accept an application from someone who is not an EU or Turkish citizen. Both have 737s and pretty close to Eastern/Central Europe if you wanted to live in Europe and commute.
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How should that work with that living in the EU if he has no EU passport and no visa? Sounds easier as it is the living in EU thing.
Turkish pays in Turkish lira, not real a good currency to live in Euroland(Lira continuously looses against the Euro). Sunexpress Turkey pays in Euros, but it would be wise to stay in Turkey. Cheaper to live and just 1 week of(paid)/month.
How should that work with that living in the EU if he has no EU passport and no visa? Sounds easier as it is the living in EU thing.
Turkish pays in Turkish lira, not real a good currency to live in Euroland(Lira continuously looses against the Euro). Sunexpress Turkey pays in Euros, but it would be wise to stay in Turkey. Cheaper to live and just 1 week of(paid)/month.
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I don't know tomuchwork. Without knowing more about the posters situation it would be difficult to say which kind of visa they should apply for etc.. However the original question was asking about Europe. If working for an EU carrier is out of the question for the time being, maybe a Turkish Airline might fit the bill whilst working towards his goal.
The answer to the question is that it's not impossible for an Asian pilot to get the required EASA licence and right to live and work in an EU member state. However it would take years to get everything in place and is probably not worth it just to get a job, there would need to be some other reason to try such as family ties etc..
The answer to the question is that it's not impossible for an Asian pilot to get the required EASA licence and right to live and work in an EU member state. However it would take years to get everything in place and is probably not worth it just to get a job, there would need to be some other reason to try such as family ties etc..
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Sorry, somehow I do not find the "Quote" tool.
But your last 2 sentences are spot on. To get EASA it takes long, not even talking about work visa. The TO asked about european low cost for asian and I think we answered that.
Turkey is not Europe anymore, except the west part of Istanbul with Ataturk airport. So Turkish would maybe do the trick(even not being low cost) - but they are in dire need of pilots. Still there is the Turkish Lira "problem" and Turkish airlines itself(see ME threads regarding that).
Some of my former collegues flying for Sunexpress(Turkey) and it seems not so bad(but they are Europeans and looking forward to have a chance to change to Sunexpress Germany), but 1 week off to proceed home at own costs again is not really that great(even you might get stby, but that's a unsafe gamble if you have to work after proceeding in).
I hope we could shed some light at the issue. And maybe Turkey is an option for him. Would advise to have a good read on Turkish airlines first if you really want to be there(always a question of taste). Or think about the ME as it is not that far (about 5-6 hours flying) from Europe - again, think (and read) well before considering going to play in the "sandpit".
Both places are much easier to get a job as a non European license holder.
But your last 2 sentences are spot on. To get EASA it takes long, not even talking about work visa. The TO asked about european low cost for asian and I think we answered that.
Turkey is not Europe anymore, except the west part of Istanbul with Ataturk airport. So Turkish would maybe do the trick(even not being low cost) - but they are in dire need of pilots. Still there is the Turkish Lira "problem" and Turkish airlines itself(see ME threads regarding that).
Some of my former collegues flying for Sunexpress(Turkey) and it seems not so bad(but they are Europeans and looking forward to have a chance to change to Sunexpress Germany), but 1 week off to proceed home at own costs again is not really that great(even you might get stby, but that's a unsafe gamble if you have to work after proceeding in).
I hope we could shed some light at the issue. And maybe Turkey is an option for him. Would advise to have a good read on Turkish airlines first if you really want to be there(always a question of taste). Or think about the ME as it is not that far (about 5-6 hours flying) from Europe - again, think (and read) well before considering going to play in the "sandpit".
Both places are much easier to get a job as a non European license holder.
