Ryanair Details please
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Can someone offer a comparison of another 'profession' that requires such huge amounts of effort, education and money to enter; pays reasonable amounts of money to execute the job in hand after lengthy qualification; demands such responsibility and exacts such huge social sacrifices; and where the members of such a profession are asking such basic questions about their employment status?
IMHO this is madness to the nth degree. For gawds sake this is EU 21st century. WTF!
Not only that; add all the questions about basic treatment as an employee. What ever happened to self-respect?
IMHO this is madness to the nth degree. For gawds sake this is EU 21st century. WTF!
Not only that; add all the questions about basic treatment as an employee. What ever happened to self-respect?
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From: Where the company needs me not where I want to be!
Rock up 50mins before off blocks. The young keen F/O will have all the paperwork ready. The cabin crew will be chomping at the bit to get on board so you look at the F/O and say any issues? He says no and you tell the girls to get the hot water maker on.
Sign the flight plans and think of any slightly logical reason for some extra fuel. Walk out to the plane and let the F/O kick off so you have time to check the tech log and notams.
Do your 4 sectors and on the last the cabin crew are gone like a rat up a drain pipe. The F/O went slightly before that to file the paperwork and you retract the air stairs and walk back to your car.
Thats pretty much it in a nut shell.
Of course I could be talking complete fiction and fantasy so take all this with a pinch of salt.
Sign the flight plans and think of any slightly logical reason for some extra fuel. Walk out to the plane and let the F/O kick off so you have time to check the tech log and notams.
Do your 4 sectors and on the last the cabin crew are gone like a rat up a drain pipe. The F/O went slightly before that to file the paperwork and you retract the air stairs and walk back to your car.
Thats pretty much it in a nut shell.
Of course I could be talking complete fiction and fantasy so take all this with a pinch of salt.
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Mackoi: Is that 4405 Euro net for a Captain inclusive of everything, I mean per diem etc?
If it is I am truly surprised. Roughly speaking it's the same as I would net in Europe as a heavy turboprop First Officer in 1994. Forget about any inflation, it's the same actual number.
If it is I am truly surprised. Roughly speaking it's the same as I would net in Europe as a heavy turboprop First Officer in 1994. Forget about any inflation, it's the same actual number.
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As I said those numbers are for contractors under McGinley contract assuming 800 hours per year and some other hypotheses like Spanish base. Numbers vary greatly from base to base depending on the SI of each country.
I did the calculations by myself so these ARE NOT REAL NUMBERS, just a prediction
I did the calculations by myself so these ARE NOT REAL NUMBERS, just a prediction
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Drifting a little from the main topic, what are the main duties of the base captain and cabin crew supervisor at each Ryanair base?
A couple of days ago I was at a coffee shop in the airport and a few Ryanair cabin crew were there talking about how nice the base captain is but not the cabin supervisor. Isn’t the base captain responsible for flight and cabin crew?
I do not work for Ryanair and I am not applying for them, just in case…
A couple of days ago I was at a coffee shop in the airport and a few Ryanair cabin crew were there talking about how nice the base captain is but not the cabin supervisor. Isn’t the base captain responsible for flight and cabin crew?
I do not work for Ryanair and I am not applying for them, just in case…
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The base captain is the one who calls the pilots on their days off to ask them why they didn't do a second RVSM check on a flight three weeks previous, the base supervisor is the one who gives disciplinary meetings to cabin crew for not selling enough Boxerchips.
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Very good afternoon folks, I am looking for opinions whether RYR is an option compared to my present Airline.
In short, I am a FO flying wide body/long haul based in the Middle East. Salary is good, permanent contract but I am starting to get a little tired of the Middle East and I am thinking about going working in Europe.
I even made a list of the pros and cons and ironically since I have no hours on the 737 I would join RYR as a cadet which means that I'll have to self fund my type on the 73 and also I will probably end up with a contractor.
I know, probably the only bright spot about RYR is that I could live with my family (If I get the base I ask
), which is no small achievement.
I would appreciate any comments/suggestions that will help make up my mind.. I have long thought the same thing.
In short, I am a FO flying wide body/long haul based in the Middle East. Salary is good, permanent contract but I am starting to get a little tired of the Middle East and I am thinking about going working in Europe.
I even made a list of the pros and cons and ironically since I have no hours on the 737 I would join RYR as a cadet which means that I'll have to self fund my type on the 73 and also I will probably end up with a contractor.
I know, probably the only bright spot about RYR is that I could live with my family (If I get the base I ask
), which is no small achievement. I would appreciate any comments/suggestions that will help make up my mind.. I have long thought the same thing.
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Depends what a/c you're on now, how flexible your family is, and what the worldwide contract market is like for your type. You might find some very lucrative contracts in nice places, or very sympathetic commuting contracts.
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The base captain is the one who calls the pilots on their days off to ask them why they didn't do a second RVSM check on a flight three weeks previous, the base supervisor is the one who gives disciplinary meetings to cabin crew for not selling enough Boxerchips.
You forgot the part where the base captain chases FOs around the crew room prodding them with a stick until they upgrade.
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@ worktolive,
You will need for sure to fund your B737 TR but I do not believe you will be considered as a cadet. As for the contract, try asking for a direct contract with Ryanair. Have you contacted them already?
You will need for sure to fund your B737 TR but I do not believe you will be considered as a cadet. As for the contract, try asking for a direct contract with Ryanair. Have you contacted them already?
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From: By the sea
Depends what a/c you're on now, how flexible your family is, and what the worldwide contract market is like for your type. You might find some very lucrative contracts in nice places, or very sympathetic commuting contracts.
You will need for sure to fund your B737 TR but I do not believe you will be considered as a cadet. As for the contract, try asking for a direct contract with Ryanair. Have you contacted them already?
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worktolive,
I wouldn't expect a proper contract to be honest. But then stranger things have happened.
When I read your first post you didn't strike me as someone really desperate to be in Europe (maybe I'm wrong?). If it was me I would not join RYR unless my family or I was unhappy.
I know there are horror stories in the middle east, but don't fall into the trap of the grass being greener. If you are tired of the ME, I promise you'll get tired of being based in a country you don't want to, commuting on your days off. Depending on where you live an where you're based, commuting can be anywhere between 4 - 14 hours and 1-4 flights to get home, and then do it again 2 days later. Consistently high load factors make it all the more difficult.
Get your command if you're close to it. Or get a Ryanair command with the intention of leaving and doing back to the ME/Asia as a DEC somewhere. Ryanair is a great place to start your career, but I don't see it as a progressive career move. Personal opinion, of course.
I wouldn't expect a proper contract to be honest. But then stranger things have happened.
When I read your first post you didn't strike me as someone really desperate to be in Europe (maybe I'm wrong?). If it was me I would not join RYR unless my family or I was unhappy.
I know there are horror stories in the middle east, but don't fall into the trap of the grass being greener. If you are tired of the ME, I promise you'll get tired of being based in a country you don't want to, commuting on your days off. Depending on where you live an where you're based, commuting can be anywhere between 4 - 14 hours and 1-4 flights to get home, and then do it again 2 days later. Consistently high load factors make it all the more difficult.
Get your command if you're close to it. Or get a Ryanair command with the intention of leaving and doing back to the ME/Asia as a DEC somewhere. Ryanair is a great place to start your career, but I don't see it as a progressive career move. Personal opinion, of course.
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From: FRANCE 06
BERGAMO BASE
Hi gents, I have been offered a Cpt position at Bergamo base with a direct Ryanair contract, I am trying to estimate my final net monthly paycheck on a 72193 basic and 48,16/hr...both gross.
Anyone based in bergamo or that would know the calculation to sort this out ?
And is the Basic negotiable ?
Anyone based in bergamo or that would know the calculation to sort this out ?
And is the Basic negotiable ?
Last edited by leced4u; 13th December 2016 at 08:28.
