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Hi Folks above,
I did my assessment in October last year, unfortunately failed the simulator, but they were happy enough to give me another go in 2021.
However, my tips are as follows....
Day 1 is as I experienced it was an intense day, very long. You come in at the Hotel and you wait to enter the big room where you will do an x amount of test, i believe it was in the area of 15 different test. Ranging from English, German, knowledge questions, ATPL questions, maths, physics, psychometric testing, psychological questions and some reaction tests. In all fairness, you have some things you can prepare, but also a lot that should be or could be common knowledge. The book I used to prepare was ‚Testtraining 2000+‘ from Hesse Schrader. Take a few days/week if you want to prepare for it. You can do the tests in your own pace... At the beginning of the testing, you can decide if you want to do the tests in English or German. Dont be fooled, not all the tests will be in English and the psychological testing will be in German.
After all the testing, you’ll be dealt in to random groups and perform a group exercise. Result is not important, showing that you can work together is. I am not a native German speaker so I needed to listen intently so i could follow precisely what was happening. I felt slightly uncomfortable as i could not be my 100% self and throw my opinion in, but AeroLogic complimented me on it. So what you think is correct, is not always correct in their eyes.
Afterwards you all can choose to meet up for dinner on AeroLogics costs and you’ll hear between 8pm and 9pm if you did or did not pass to the next round.
at the beginning of the day the simulator slots for the next day are already planned, so you’ll have an estimate on what you’ll be in the sim if you pass. Just remember, dont pas is no sim.
Day 2:
First you do the sim. This is where I dropped out. However, please do take my advice for it as i did not follow the tips and payed the price. There is a simulator center near the hotel from Lufthansa. At this sim center there is a man who does AeroLogic prep sessions, he will walk you through the sim session which “easy”. However, if you are rated, they are really strickt. Get as much raw data sim prep as you can!
All is raw data. You are on the runway in Leipzig and will do the Before Take Off Checks...
- Take Off 3000’ and make a turn.
- Pass transition altitude (set standard)
- Level Off
- Climbing turn/descending turn 20 AoB and 1000ft per minute.
- Descend 3000’
- Vectors Raw Data NDB approach
- GoAround... one engine out.
- Memory Items? No memory items.
- Shut engine down
- Vectors Raw Data Single Engine ILS Approach
You’ll get the result 2-3 minutes later.
If you failed you’ll have an exit interview. They’ll inform you of your scores of the following day, and if they were happy with that then you’ll be invited to come back within 12 months. If you did not fit their profile, then they’ll thank you for your interest in AeroLogic.
If you passed, you’ll have an interview where they want to get to know you. Why cargo? Why AeroLogic? What drives you? Hobbies? So on so on....
Then a few days/weeks later you will get a phone call or email informing you of the result.
Good Luck to you all and stay safe!
I did my assessment in October last year, unfortunately failed the simulator, but they were happy enough to give me another go in 2021.
However, my tips are as follows....
Day 1 is as I experienced it was an intense day, very long. You come in at the Hotel and you wait to enter the big room where you will do an x amount of test, i believe it was in the area of 15 different test. Ranging from English, German, knowledge questions, ATPL questions, maths, physics, psychometric testing, psychological questions and some reaction tests. In all fairness, you have some things you can prepare, but also a lot that should be or could be common knowledge. The book I used to prepare was ‚Testtraining 2000+‘ from Hesse Schrader. Take a few days/week if you want to prepare for it. You can do the tests in your own pace... At the beginning of the testing, you can decide if you want to do the tests in English or German. Dont be fooled, not all the tests will be in English and the psychological testing will be in German.
After all the testing, you’ll be dealt in to random groups and perform a group exercise. Result is not important, showing that you can work together is. I am not a native German speaker so I needed to listen intently so i could follow precisely what was happening. I felt slightly uncomfortable as i could not be my 100% self and throw my opinion in, but AeroLogic complimented me on it. So what you think is correct, is not always correct in their eyes.
Afterwards you all can choose to meet up for dinner on AeroLogics costs and you’ll hear between 8pm and 9pm if you did or did not pass to the next round.
at the beginning of the day the simulator slots for the next day are already planned, so you’ll have an estimate on what you’ll be in the sim if you pass. Just remember, dont pas is no sim.
Day 2:
First you do the sim. This is where I dropped out. However, please do take my advice for it as i did not follow the tips and payed the price. There is a simulator center near the hotel from Lufthansa. At this sim center there is a man who does AeroLogic prep sessions, he will walk you through the sim session which “easy”. However, if you are rated, they are really strickt. Get as much raw data sim prep as you can!
All is raw data. You are on the runway in Leipzig and will do the Before Take Off Checks...
- Take Off 3000’ and make a turn.
- Pass transition altitude (set standard)
- Level Off
- Climbing turn/descending turn 20 AoB and 1000ft per minute.
- Descend 3000’
- Vectors Raw Data NDB approach
- GoAround... one engine out.
- Memory Items? No memory items.
- Shut engine down
- Vectors Raw Data Single Engine ILS Approach
You’ll get the result 2-3 minutes later.
If you failed you’ll have an exit interview. They’ll inform you of your scores of the following day, and if they were happy with that then you’ll be invited to come back within 12 months. If you did not fit their profile, then they’ll thank you for your interest in AeroLogic.
If you passed, you’ll have an interview where they want to get to know you. Why cargo? Why AeroLogic? What drives you? Hobbies? So on so on....
Then a few days/weeks later you will get a phone call or email informing you of the result.
Good Luck to you all and stay safe!
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Hit AtlasPilot,
1.) You are right - my bad! The order of events is now corrected in my post above. It is indeed as you posted.
2.) It was a positive assessment from roughly 08/2020 - Start date of CBT and TR was 11/2020.
3.) Not sure about the dinner. might have been a "COVID" related skip on that part.
Good Luck to you & use the Hesse Schrader Testtraining and Skytest Books/Sotware. It seems to help a lot for the first part.
1.) You are right - my bad! The order of events is now corrected in my post above. It is indeed as you posted.
2.) It was a positive assessment from roughly 08/2020 - Start date of CBT and TR was 11/2020.
3.) Not sure about the dinner. might have been a "COVID" related skip on that part.
Good Luck to you & use the Hesse Schrader Testtraining and Skytest Books/Sotware. It seems to help a lot for the first part.
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Hi MrGustave,
Can't make a 100% statement concerning the language, but I think it depends on your native language.
If german = most parts will be done in german. But there will be english questions - especially during the interview part.
Things I recall were in the line of:
"Explain part xyz from your Aircraft - What is it used for / How does it work?"; "Explain a pandemic/Covid to your collague!"; "Would you be here if it wasn't for a global crisis in pax aviation?"
Good luck to you too
Can't make a 100% statement concerning the language, but I think it depends on your native language.
If german = most parts will be done in german. But there will be english questions - especially during the interview part.
Things I recall were in the line of:
"Explain part xyz from your Aircraft - What is it used for / How does it work?"; "Explain a pandemic/Covid to your collague!"; "Would you be here if it wasn't for a global crisis in pax aviation?"
Good luck to you too
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Hi,
as far as I remember it were the psychological questions and some of the practical tests, but when in doubt about a question, you are free to ask the assessors if they can help you. Not too much, but I think it shows them as well you want to work accurately.
For others, I have gotten an invitation for another assessment in the second week of August.
as far as I remember it were the psychological questions and some of the practical tests, but when in doubt about a question, you are free to ask the assessors if they can help you. Not too much, but I think it shows them as well you want to work accurately.
For others, I have gotten an invitation for another assessment in the second week of August.
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well, for me I passed the first round last year so doing the same. Studying the Hesse/Schrader (Test2000) and some online ATPL questions.
for the sim however, going to book a sim slot somewhere
for the sim however, going to book a sim slot somewhere
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I just red that you passed first round the moment i posted my reply...
What exact online questionaire did you use for atpl?
For the sim prep i did mine with C4U last year, they have acces to the same sim where the screening will be held.
Altough i didn't make it to the sim last time.
What exact online questionaire did you use for atpl?
For the sim prep i did mine with C4U last year, they have acces to the same sim where the screening will be held.
Altough i didn't make it to the sim last time.
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I used FastTrack ATPL. It’s 500+ questions which will give you 50-60% of the questions on the exam. I believe that of all the tests, this one is the most unpredictable.
The sim prep you did, is that considered “the official” prep thing which most folks do?
The sim prep you did, is that considered “the official” prep thing which most folks do?
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Great, thanks for the info. I honestly was not very fond of this "testraining 2000" but hey whatever does the job.
Good question. i dont know if there is an "official" one? I booked a session on the fixed based with said company just to get comfortable with the profile. they offer FFS as well of course.
I did a screening prep for a different company with them a few years back and it was spot on the same as the screening. There is AET as well but i have no info about them.
Good question. i dont know if there is an "official" one? I booked a session on the fixed based with said company just to get comfortable with the profile. they offer FFS as well of course.
I did a screening prep for a different company with them a few years back and it was spot on the same as the screening. There is AET as well but i have no info about them.
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well, I got a spreadsheet to keep track of what to learn. Maintaining that, helped me a lot! Did not have too many doubts on the testing and it payed off.
thanks for the tip of sim!
thanks for the tip of sim!
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Hi,
I used 'Hesse and Schrader' for training. The test is not the same but it helps to retrain your brain for some of the tests. And further you get used to this kind of tests again. Besides this I had a look into the ATP question again. Most of them were related to OPS, Performance and HPL.
For Screening Prep I used Easyflighttraining.com.
Long first day. Tests run from 9am to 5pm and then you do a group discussion. Next day only SIM and Interview.
I used 'Hesse and Schrader' for training. The test is not the same but it helps to retrain your brain for some of the tests. And further you get used to this kind of tests again. Besides this I had a look into the ATP question again. Most of them were related to OPS, Performance and HPL.
For Screening Prep I used Easyflighttraining.com.
Long first day. Tests run from 9am to 5pm and then you do a group discussion. Next day only SIM and Interview.