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Old 26th Oct 2015, 22:24
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 09:33
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Vueling Conditions & Contracts

Hello guys. Does anyone have an update on the conditions and contracts Vueling is offering to Junior First Officer? Just read they don't require Spanish level 4 anymore.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 17:14
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Hello guys. Does anyone have an update on the conditions and contracts Vueling is offering to Junior First Officer? Just read they don't require Spanish level 4 anymore.
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Where did you read that and are they hiring? My mate needs a job badly.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 18:11
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Where did you read that and are they hiring? My mate needs a job badly.
pilotjobsnetwork.com and I know some french guys who went for an assessment in BCN last month. Some of them passed.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 21:32
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The details about the contract will be shared on an exclusive interview with the Chief Pilot on the day of the assessments.

From the information I handle, I can tell you a few things though. Initially, we have a seasonal contract, that in two years’ time could become permanent depending on performance. The bases we have in Europe are TLS, NTE, BOD, SXB, VRN, VCE, GOA & PMO, we do not know which base would be in your case, but we do take into consideration the pilot’s preference. I can also tell you that for a CP in France, that flies 90 hours in high season, the approximate monthly salary is 10.000 euros.

These are the spanish bull's ur dealing with. good luck.
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Klimax
The details about the contract will be shared on an exclusive interview with the Chief Pilot on the day of the assessments.

From the information I handle, I can tell you a few things though. Initially, we have a seasonal contract, that in two years’ time could become permanent depending on performance. The bases we have in Europe are TLS, NTE, BOD, SXB, VRN, VCE, GOA & PMO, we do not know which base would be in your case, but we do take into consideration the pilot’s preference. I can also tell you that for a CP in France, that flies 90 hours in high season, the approximate monthly salary is 10.000 euros.

These are the spanish bull's ur dealing with. good luck.
just to clarify: the French tax system is in transition right now, but up until now the net salary you get every month is before income taxes, so you will not have 10000 in your pockets, but a lot less
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 16:32
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Originally Posted by elmensajero



You must be speaking about Volotea so you are posting in the wrong topic.
indeed he/she is talking about Volotea
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 16:56
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I can tell you for sure, talking about another airline and not Vueling.

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QUOTE=Klimax;10376890]The details about the contract will be shared on an exclusive interview with the Chief Pilot on the day of the assessments.

From the information I handle, I can tell you a few things though. Initially, we have a seasonal contract, that in two years’ time could become permanent depending on performance. The bases we have in Europe are TLS, NTE, BOD, SXB, VRN, VCE, GOA & PMO, we do not know which base would be in your case, but we do take into consideration the pilot’s preference. I can also tell you that for a CP in France, that flies 90 hours in high season, the approximate monthly salary is 10.000 euros.

These are the spanish bull's ur dealing with. good luck.[/QUOTE]
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 04:35
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“Exclusive” interview. Spaniards too! Where do I apply?
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They don't care about spanish level 4. I did my interview in 50/100 French and 50 English.
They were extremely vague on the terms and conditions.
They did insist on the fact that if you are on a spanish contract you will be on a six month contract So they can put you aside in winter without paying you.
In France it is impossible due to the legislation so you are on a permanent contract. But you are still payed like ****.
As far as pay goes, you are not payed until you are online. (not payed in line training actually flying the bird)
I am not sure about the pay scale.
They said it was around 7 years to upgrade to Capt.

I didn't take the job...
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 11:16
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You must be speaking about Volotea so you are posting in the wrong topic.
Yeah mate, you’re right, I mistaked this Vueling gig with another bottom feeder “airline”.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 19:28
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They were extremely vague on the terms and conditions.
Terms and conditions are easy to find online in details https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._Xim32l6i_Bj7K

So they can put you aside in winter without paying you.
It doesn't happen. There's a condiderable lack of pilots and no one who recently entered in the company was stopped during the winter, everyone kept flying normally, ofter covering other base s deficiencys.

As far as pay goes, you are not payed until you are online.
That's completely false, you do get paid during the line training. What is true is that you get paid based on the entry level; after you complete the training you go to the level you are, based on your hours.

I am not sure about the pay scale.
See above

I didn't take the job.
I honestly would have done a bit more researches before refusing the job. Now I'm not saying it's the best job you can find, but it definitely has some nice stuff you won't find in many other companies (see extra crew, zed tickets ecc). The salary is lower than easy, Ryan, Norwegian ecc but it's bound to improve soon.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 23:12
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Originally Posted by elmensajero


FYI all new recruits based in spain have been signing a full time permanent contract from day one, for more than 2 years now. Things have changed.
unexperienced FOs based in France can expect 3500 euros per month and salary would go up to 5 to 6000 euros per month for ecperienced FOs, that is with a permanent french contract. As someone wrote above, at Vueling you have loss of licence insurance, private health insurance, zed tikets with most airlines in the world, unlimited vueling staff tickets for 8 family members of your choice, iberia staff tickets for parents or sisters and brother, and free jumpseat for yourself. More benefits which I will not mention here, and of course free class 1 renewal, free parking card, free uniform including shoes, socks, luggages,.... all those basic things that I am affraid you will have to pay at Ryanair, my friend. Good luck and enjoy Ryanair
What an awesome airline - to build hours and then get the f@ck out of there.. How nice - you get ID ickets for your brothers and sisters, and benefits like class 1 renewal, a parking card... shoes... What at bloody tool from another school.. Can I ask you a personal question - did your parents pay for your "ticket"? Go to a real airline or stay ignorant.
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Originally Posted by Klimax
What an awesome airline - to build hours and then get the f@ck out of there.. How nice - you get ID ickets for your brothers and sisters, and benefits like class 1 renewal, a parking card... shoes... What at bloody tool from another school.. Can I ask you a personal question - did your parents pay for your "ticket"? Go to a real airline or stay ignorant.
You clearly have a problem with Vueling, did you fail the interview with them?

The benefits are great, they let you do the type rating wherever you want, the atmosphere at work is amazing, cabin crews are hot, a fo during the first years will earn an average of 3000+ euros (and its going to rise very soon) and as already said above you fly fore free with vueling plus you have a huge amount of vlg+iberia+zed tickets for you and for your family/friends.

Of course is not the perfect job, things like FO salary and roster changes in bcn have to be fixed, but overall is not a bad deal at all.

Ps: do some researches, you thought Vueling was Volotea just few days ago!
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 11:50
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Originally Posted by FightFireWithFire
You clearly have a problem with Vueling, did you fail the interview with them?

The benefits are great, they let you do the type rating wherever you want, the atmosphere at work is amazing, cabin crews are hot, a fo during the first years will earn an average of 3000+ euros (and its going to rise very soon) and as already said above you fly fore free with vueling plus you have a huge amount of vlg+iberia+zed tickets for you and for your family/friends.

Of course is not the perfect job, things like FO salary and roster changes in bcn have to be fixed, but overall is not a bad deal at all.

Ps: do some researches, you thought Vueling was Volotea just few days ago!
"....More benefits which I will not mention here, and of course free class 1 renewal, free parking card, free uniform including shoes, socks, luggages.."

I totally get it boys.. Do I get the socks before or after the line training is over.. I'm all over it.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Klimax
"....More benefits which I will not mention here, and of course free class 1 renewal, free parking card, free uniform including shoes, socks, luggages.."

I totally get it boys.. Do I get the socks before or after the line training is over.. I'm all over it.
The socks thing deserves special mention as you get a MASSIVE amount of socks!! I think I got like 20 or more pairs.
And yeah, the best part is that you get them even before the line training!!
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 14:59
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Need to speak with my union rep, it is unacceptable that we don’t get socks in my company.
I am willing to sacrifice private pension scheme and company shares scheme over this precious benefit.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 17:06
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Originally Posted by dirk85
Need to speak with my union rep, it is unacceptable that we don’t get socks in my company.
I am willing to sacrifice private pension scheme and company shares scheme over this precious benefit.

have a look on the uniform store
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 13:33
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F/O Pay

Hey guys,

Im preparing for the Cae Assessment in the Vueling Cadet program and as you can imagine Im really worried about the payment of the loan through the first years if i get to pass.
I have already seen the tables of the Convenio but I would appreciate some insight from current employees of Vueling as what is the average net pay at entry level for F/O given the base salary+variable.
I have also noticed that there is a harsh negotiation going on so I guess this will have a big impact on the tables also.
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 10:42
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What is happening with the European base closures, Ams and now ZRH, is Vueling re-trenching to just the SPANISH bases..?
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