Vueling - Conditions and Pay

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Just been invited for Oct 20th. NTR. Will be turning it down as I'm flying that day but i just had a look on PPJN, 17,000 for a type rating and 10,900 euros basic pay....... Is that for real? I've lived in spain and while its undoubtably cheaper, even if the add ons like flight duty/sector pay doubled that to 22,000 euros that would be a 60% pay cut from a Dash8 for gods sake!

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Just been invited for Oct 20th. NTR. Will be turning it down as I'm flying that day but i just had a look on PPJN, 17,000 for a type rating and 10,900 euros basic pay....... Is that for real? I've lived in spain and while its undoubtably cheaper, even if the add ons like flight duty/sector pay doubled that to 22,000 euros that would be a 60% pay cut from a Dash8 for gods sake!


Can they really be paying that low. 17,000 for type rating seams Ok.
11k a year. How is that possible?
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Anyone else get email calling for interview. I'm non spanish
Those figures are simply not adding up to an even survivable lifestyle in any of their bases, let alone it is a "summer job". Anyone who joined recently that can shed some light on the real deal?
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Check out page 57, https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2015/07/...-2015-7949.pdf. If your spanish is not good enough to understand it don't even bother applying to Vueling
Flying in summer about 80-90 hrs will get you around 2500-3000 net in fo lowest level.
Flying in summer about 80-90 hrs will get you around 2500-3000 net in fo lowest level.

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I have a friend there and on the lowest level, the entry level he got 16000/18000 PER YEAR net.. Oh yeah working his ass off. Isn't that on the border of Poverty?
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I have a friend that paid his type rating in vueling few year ago.
Now is tri/tre in the same company: total time 4500hrs, something a la ryanair model...
He always complain how little is paid. I take any opportunity to remind him that it is his own failure. Also, everybody else is paying for his mistake...
Now is tri/tre in the same company: total time 4500hrs, something a la ryanair model...
He always complain how little is paid. I take any opportunity to remind him that it is his own failure. Also, everybody else is paying for his mistake...
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If it is a summer contract with that salary and that cost for the type rating, then it is clear to me that what they are really doing is to solve Vueling peak manpower needs by means of a pay-to-fly program: desperate pilots without opportunities will pay the money (or work for free, which is the same) and end with the type rating and 500 hours or so. It's a good deal for them, at least better than being unemployed. Of course, p2f should be forbidden, but it is not, so that's what we get.

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It's a good deal for them, at least better than being unemployed. Of course, p2f should be forbidden, but it is not, so that's what we get.
The pay is so low, it is even LESS than minimum wage in the country I live in. (NL) minimum wage is €1502 PER MONTH.
So to all pilots that might be considering whether to fly for Vueling, think again. You might as well move to Amsterdam, flip some burgers at the local McD, and make more money. Saves you from paying up for a type rating.
And when you make that kind of money in NL, you don't pay taxes. Don't worry.
Last edited by fox niner; 22nd October 2015 at 20:05. Reason: typo

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Come to think of it,
Since you are elligible to work for Vueling, you are also elligible to apply for an unemployment social benefit in NL. Which is about €14000 per year. You don't need to work, just move here and apply. Forget Vueling.
Since you are elligible to work for Vueling, you are also elligible to apply for an unemployment social benefit in NL. Which is about €14000 per year. You don't need to work, just move here and apply. Forget Vueling.






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