Experienced bus guys applying for Ryan Air
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So it seems that they get not only experienced guys but experienced guys who can also pass aptitude tests. Ho hum.
A lot has changed since you left, NINE years ago, and HR have nothing to do with FDM. I agree about the RNAV stuff though but who really cares.
JB, you come across as a bitter old man who is desperate to post anything negative about Jet2 on any thread. It's rather sad.
former workmates who did get the Jet2 job regards each flight on one of the B737-300's as a potential simulator session, have the HR department pulling them off line for the most minor infraction of the FDM, the policy on RNAV approaches is like something out of the dark ages and the management are very aggressive. The only upside is you do three tenths of naff all work during the winter.
JB, you come across as a bitter old man who is desperate to post anything negative about Jet2 on any thread. It's rather sad.
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chrian_dk. Please tell me English is not your first language. If it is not, then very well done that you are managing to be a numpty in not just your own language but someone else's too - a noteworthy achievement. Given your propensity to be right, as you have so eruditely informed us, it may come as a terrible shock to find that everyone you fly with does not quite agree with you. Indeed, difficult as it is to believe, I personally know people who would go back to Uncle Michael tomorrow rather than stay at NAS. This is mainly due to being told one day that tomorrow they were going on 3 month's unpaid leave as they had too many pilots. Just the kind of company everyone loves to work for. But as you say, you would kick anyone in the whatsits who disagrees, so you must be right. You are not a manager at NAS perchance are you? If not you seem to have all the personal skills required for such an illustrious and respected position - you really should give it a go as it may be just up your street.
Regarding easyJet not taking experienced pilots, it is not true. What is true is that they have not taken non-rated pilots in any numbers for years. They have this year taken a whole host of DECs to LGW (about 15-20 I believe) and a further number to new bases at OPO, LIS and NAP. All were very experienced Airbus pilots who did not find it necessary to falsify their hours downwards in order to get the job.
Regarding Jet2, I too am a former employee, albeit a number of years ago. I can only concur with A and C that it is one of the least attractive jet jobs in the UK.
Regarding easyJet not taking experienced pilots, it is not true. What is true is that they have not taken non-rated pilots in any numbers for years. They have this year taken a whole host of DECs to LGW (about 15-20 I believe) and a further number to new bases at OPO, LIS and NAP. All were very experienced Airbus pilots who did not find it necessary to falsify their hours downwards in order to get the job.
Regarding Jet2, I too am a former employee, albeit a number of years ago. I can only concur with A and C that it is one of the least attractive jet jobs in the UK.
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pianopilot - an outrageous and shameful thing it was too. I am personally deeply embarrassed at the episode. This was the first time in many years that easyJet had recruited non-rated pilots and it was much-trumpeted by the Management at the time. Unfortunately, it turned into an utter own goal as we subsequently binned 40 or so pilots we had offered jobs to. It was simply inexcusable and caused significant damage to easyJet's reputation as an employer. Sadly, there were opportunities to sort the mess out the following year, but to my knowledge not one of those pilots were ever given jobs at easyJet. Instead there was a return to the recruitment of type-rated pilots and inexperienced cadets. Many of these guys/gals are actually very good, but that is not the point. Keeping your word is vital, and on the occasion you referred to that did not happen. All I can say is that I am very sorry for what happened to you, and hope you have gone on to do well wherever you are.
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Thank you for your sympathetic words, I really appreciate them.
At the time of the assessment and the subsequent positive result I had been looking for a job for a year, because my former employer had gone bust.
Obviously I don't have to describe the difference between someone who is employed (which I believe most of my fellow applicants were) and someone who isn't, in terms of what they are going through emotionally.
After two months we were put in a hold pool. I thought: "fair enough, I can wait, just a matter of when, not if, I've been through worse."
Then I received a very mysterious phone call from them asking me about what I had been doing after my last flying job. I was unsettled and asked them whether this was going to change anything about the result. No she said.
In hindsight it is clear to me that this call's intention was to select 40 that could be ditched, probably based on whether they had been flying or not.
Apparantly an "excellent" simulator screening accounts for nothing if you haven't seen a real flightdeck for so long.
Another 4 months had passed until we received the crushing news.
Even after what happened, I'm not resentful and I'd still like to work for easyJet, because flying short and medium haul within europe for a stable carrier is what I want to do in the long term.
The main thing is I'm flying now. A few ex Ryanair and SunExpress FOs have joined recently who weren't happy there but are now, which tells me this is not the worst place to be.
sorry to the others for having gone off topic
Thank you for your sympathetic words, I really appreciate them.
At the time of the assessment and the subsequent positive result I had been looking for a job for a year, because my former employer had gone bust.
Obviously I don't have to describe the difference between someone who is employed (which I believe most of my fellow applicants were) and someone who isn't, in terms of what they are going through emotionally.
After two months we were put in a hold pool. I thought: "fair enough, I can wait, just a matter of when, not if, I've been through worse."
Then I received a very mysterious phone call from them asking me about what I had been doing after my last flying job. I was unsettled and asked them whether this was going to change anything about the result. No she said.
In hindsight it is clear to me that this call's intention was to select 40 that could be ditched, probably based on whether they had been flying or not.
Apparantly an "excellent" simulator screening accounts for nothing if you haven't seen a real flightdeck for so long.
Another 4 months had passed until we received the crushing news.
Even after what happened, I'm not resentful and I'd still like to work for easyJet, because flying short and medium haul within europe for a stable carrier is what I want to do in the long term.
The main thing is I'm flying now. A few ex Ryanair and SunExpress FOs have joined recently who weren't happy there but are now, which tells me this is not the worst place to be.
sorry to the others for having gone off topic
Last edited by pianopilot; 6th Jun 2015 at 14:28.
