Norwegian B787 - LGW based
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Is there any actual NLH pilot here who could give me some advice if joining Norwegian Long Haul is a good idea right now, or not.
I am employed on the B777 but with no upgrade possibility with my current employer.
I am employed on the B777 but with no upgrade possibility with my current employer.
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Training bond
I have the NLH screening due in a couple of weeks. Anybody who got through it can shed some light on the training bond requested? I've never done it before.
Thanks in advance
PG
Thanks in advance
PG
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This 787 “pioneer” talks about his orifice, bedroom and “as good as it gets” lifestyle with Norwegian - if this helps to decide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6bPjl-e2PM
Conversely, a previous post reports that 25 pilots have recently vacated Norwegian’s premises en masse after receiving far better terms and conditions from another landlord:
For those of you without the rating and worried about the bond; you could join Rishworth, get the rating and time on type with Norwegian, then seek employment with an airline. A way out of the bond might be to notify Norwegian you empathize with Caitlyn Jenner and are considering a gender change. Attending the admin office wearing stilettos and a flirty little black number should do the trick.
Good luck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6bPjl-e2PM
Conversely, a previous post reports that 25 pilots have recently vacated Norwegian’s premises en masse after receiving far better terms and conditions from another landlord:
It was about 25 with VS maybe needing 20 to 40 more!.…..with the prospect of being away for 20 days in and out of Scandinavia in your future I would think Virgin LHR base an offer you couldn't turn down
Good luck!
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Can any UK guys with NLH shed some light on the bond please? Is the only option in the UK to cough up the money or is there somewhere one can get the bank guarantee letter as it seems common to do in Europe? Cheers!
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Press Release
Looks like Kjos is pretty confident about future expansion plans.
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/norwegian-selects-30-a321lr-for-first-transatlantic-routes/
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/norwegian-selects-30-a321lr-for-first-transatlantic-routes/
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There are other press releases to consider regarding the aspirations of the smiling rock ape:-
“Now that Norwegian Air’s exemption application has been dismissed, the company’s business model - described by DOT as ‘novel and complex’ – will face the careful scrutiny it deserves. Norwegian Air should not be permitted to create shell subsidiaries designed to undermine labor standards and take advantage of lax employment and tax laws” - Ed Wytkind, leader of the TTD, 12 million members, AFL-CIO union.
http://ttd.org/news-and-media/press-releases/statement-on-u-s-dot-rejection-of-nauk-exemption-application/
“Now that Norwegian Air’s exemption application has been dismissed, the company’s business model - described by DOT as ‘novel and complex’ – will face the careful scrutiny it deserves. Norwegian Air should not be permitted to create shell subsidiaries designed to undermine labor standards and take advantage of lax employment and tax laws” - Ed Wytkind, leader of the TTD, 12 million members, AFL-CIO union.
http://ttd.org/news-and-media/press-releases/statement-on-u-s-dot-rejection-of-nauk-exemption-application/
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The selection process is described on Norwegian's webpage in the introduction text to where you apply.
It says:
"The first step is to fill out and submit your CV and application. You will then receive an e-mail confirming the receipt of your application. In addition you will be sent an invitation to do five online tests."
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"Applicants that fulfill the requirements for the position and successfully pass the online tests and background checks including references check, will be contacted via e-mail if advancing further in the assessment process. Please note that it is an ongoing recruitment process."
As I understand, if you don't hear anything after you have completed the online tests, it simply means that you have passed it and wait for the next step. Norwegian will contact you only if you fail something or go further in the process.
Hear they have thousands of applications why they probably cannot reply with a separate email to each individual. They are not so many people doing the recruitment. It's a LCC.
Heard from a friend that screened this week that they screen 250 pilots only this summer; June, July and August. Impressive.
It says:
"The first step is to fill out and submit your CV and application. You will then receive an e-mail confirming the receipt of your application. In addition you will be sent an invitation to do five online tests."
[...]
"Applicants that fulfill the requirements for the position and successfully pass the online tests and background checks including references check, will be contacted via e-mail if advancing further in the assessment process. Please note that it is an ongoing recruitment process."
As I understand, if you don't hear anything after you have completed the online tests, it simply means that you have passed it and wait for the next step. Norwegian will contact you only if you fail something or go further in the process.
Hear they have thousands of applications why they probably cannot reply with a separate email to each individual. They are not so many people doing the recruitment. It's a LCC.
Heard from a friend that screened this week that they screen 250 pilots only this summer; June, July and August. Impressive.
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The EU Commission has invoked an arbitration process that “could take several months” (in addition to any election delays) to consider US permit applications by NAI and NA UK:-
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/26/reuters-america-exclusive-eu-to-seek-arbitration-in-dispute-with-us-over-norwegian-air-sources.html
Those opposing the applications continue to cite Norwegian’s non-compliance with Article 17 (labor standards, labor rights and principles) of the Open Skies Agreement. The ex-Deputy Administrator of NASA is the latest to oppose Norwegian:-
“……along with the advantages of healthy competition come the opportunists – those fueled by competition but seeking to cheat the system to gain the upper hand”
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/transportation/288281-why-obama-must-reject-norwegian-air
Norwegian has the longest pending application in the history of the Open Skies Agreement. I doubt it will receive any further consideration until after Clinton or Trump’s inauguration. Clinton has already stated she is against granting Norwegian a US permit.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/26/reuters-america-exclusive-eu-to-seek-arbitration-in-dispute-with-us-over-norwegian-air-sources.html
Those opposing the applications continue to cite Norwegian’s non-compliance with Article 17 (labor standards, labor rights and principles) of the Open Skies Agreement. The ex-Deputy Administrator of NASA is the latest to oppose Norwegian:-
“……along with the advantages of healthy competition come the opportunists – those fueled by competition but seeking to cheat the system to gain the upper hand”
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/transportation/288281-why-obama-must-reject-norwegian-air
Norwegian has the longest pending application in the history of the Open Skies Agreement. I doubt it will receive any further consideration until after Clinton or Trump’s inauguration. Clinton has already stated she is against granting Norwegian a US permit.
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Unfortunately, the hiring practices, exact contract terms and conditions and other elements of the Norwegian regime are becoming more and more secretive. While witch-hunts are conducted against staff providing information Norwegian perceives as critical, we will wait in vain for any answers. In the meantime:-
The President of Irish Airline Pilots Association, Captain Evan Cullen, has written a letter to the Irish Times blasting Norwegian’s “dubious employment practices”. Captain Cullen also admonishes the Irish press for their “ill informed” comment and “scant coverage” of the facts provided by those opposing Norwegian’s circumvention of employment laws:-
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/opposition-to-norwegian-air-international-s-plan-1.2749410
Norwegian claims that Irish employment law will apply to crew, however, no sample Irish contract of employment has been provided to the DOT.
Captain Cullen believes that Cork is being used as a pawn in Norwegian’s proposed Cork Boston service and has stated that, based on their existing traffic rights, Norwegian could start a Cork-Boston service tomorrow if they so desired. The people of Cork and Irish press are apparently unable to grasp this fact:-
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/pilots-union-norwegian-airline-using-cork-as-a-pawn-386482.html
Kjos intends to appeal the recent Oslo court ruling that Norwegian is the real employer. The next time Kjos refers to staff as “our employees” someone should ask if he is telling the truth:-
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2016/08/08/1821/Luftfart/norwegian-tar-pilotene-til-lagmannsretten
The President of Irish Airline Pilots Association, Captain Evan Cullen, has written a letter to the Irish Times blasting Norwegian’s “dubious employment practices”. Captain Cullen also admonishes the Irish press for their “ill informed” comment and “scant coverage” of the facts provided by those opposing Norwegian’s circumvention of employment laws:-
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/opposition-to-norwegian-air-international-s-plan-1.2749410
Norwegian claims that Irish employment law will apply to crew, however, no sample Irish contract of employment has been provided to the DOT.
Captain Cullen believes that Cork is being used as a pawn in Norwegian’s proposed Cork Boston service and has stated that, based on their existing traffic rights, Norwegian could start a Cork-Boston service tomorrow if they so desired. The people of Cork and Irish press are apparently unable to grasp this fact:-
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/pilots-union-norwegian-airline-using-cork-as-a-pawn-386482.html
Kjos intends to appeal the recent Oslo court ruling that Norwegian is the real employer. The next time Kjos refers to staff as “our employees” someone should ask if he is telling the truth:-
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2016/08/08/1821/Luftfart/norwegian-tar-pilotene-til-lagmannsretten
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Selection procedure
Anyone who has recently undergone this selection program??? Any info regarding the group exercise, interview and or sim detail, any info would be immensely appreciated. In advance, best regards.
