Monarch 2015
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12 cadets starting from oxford this month, don't hold your breath for any recruitment outside of the flight schools. Just another unfortunate case of cheep labour screwing the industry for everyone else.
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There are rumours of a wet lease which will negate the need for any recruitment. I am surprised at the reliance from OAA unless the airline is being paid something for taking them.With the new payscale it would make more sense to take experienced pilots rather than cadets as you are overpaying for the latters lack of experience.
Under the restructure a lot of experienced pilots have left and the junior pilots who were expecting to be made redundant have been retained,so it would make sense to hire some experienced people.
Under the restructure a lot of experienced pilots have left and the junior pilots who were expecting to be made redundant have been retained,so it would make sense to hire some experienced people.
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They have introduced a new cadet salary, not sure how much but it's fair to assume it won't be good (The full FO Salary is bad enough). As I understand it, there has been a need to sub lease in the summer which is due to the reduction in Mon fleet size, but this will have no impact on the recruitment needs of Monarch, they need to fully crew 34 aircraft and so many people have left and are continuing to leave that there is a need to replace them. I personally think it's a shame that they could not give these positions to experienced people but that seems to be the trend these days.
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Draconian company rules constrain what we can say about the company on the internet, so you will not get an account of how working conditions and morale are at Monarch.
IMO
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Monarch 2015
Second batch of cadets now in training with 3 more lots of 4 scheduled for the next few days. Salary for cadets £21000, however is part year part time so slice a bit off that during the quiet months.
Have seen nothing of the "Draconian", just decent people clinging on to their futures. All companies are topping up the numbers with cadets so nothing new there.
Have seen nothing of the "Draconian", just decent people clinging on to their futures. All companies are topping up the numbers with cadets so nothing new there.
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If you think £21,000 (then with a bit lopped off for part time) is an acceptable salary for an airline pilot then you are part of the problem my friend.
my wife is a teaching assistant and earns that. She also gets half the year off and works 9-3. Granted her salary isn't likely to increase as per a pilots, but she also doesn't have a crippling training debt to pay off.
my wife is a teaching assistant and earns that. She also gets half the year off and works 9-3. Granted her salary isn't likely to increase as per a pilots, but she also doesn't have a crippling training debt to pay off.
Ut Sementem Feeceris
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£21k ???!!!!! For being second in Command of a multimillion pound asset and a priceless cargo. People really do under value themselves. It'll only stop when people refuse......which will be never. 
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£21k ???!!!!! For being second in Command of a multimillion pound asset and a priceless cargo. People really do under value themselves as A4 says.
That's what the paying public don't realise or care about. The person piloting the metal tube they are sitting in especially when anything goes wrong has minimal experience, is living on peanuts, usually running a second job to survive and running higher then ideal levels of Fatigue.
especially if /when something happens to their colleague 
That's what the paying public don't realise or care about. The person piloting the metal tube they are sitting in especially when anything goes wrong has minimal experience, is living on peanuts, usually running a second job to survive and running higher then ideal levels of Fatigue.
especially if /when something happens to their colleague