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Old 18th Dec 2014, 17:16
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Pfo as well...
Bye bye Titan
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 19:08
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For those of us just a little older.......
What is PFO ?
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 19:11
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Politely Foxtrot Oscar??
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 19:47
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Aah yes, did not think of that!!

My experience of our industry is that nothing is certain, most transition from one extreme to the other.

So do not despair you might find PFO is followed by offers!
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 12:10
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So how did you all get on ?
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Old 6th Mar 2015, 23:17
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Evening folks,

Having scoured the tinterweb, I have only found salary and terms on PPJN for 2006. Has the salary changed since then? If so, by how much?

Roster - can you expect a chaotic summer with no pattern and a rather quiet winter with rather long down time like most charter/adhoc airlines or do they keep you busy year round?
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Old 7th Mar 2015, 18:11
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Some good quality skippers have been selected. Should all be going through company specific training shortly.

Summer should be busy with mostly rostered flying. Winters quieter but getting busier.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 08:14
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Truckflyer

I don't understand your logic.

Are you seriously suggesting that people shouldn't apply for a well paid, stable job on the basis that the airline (which is a commercial venture), accepted contract work from another airline?

I should remind you that there will always be applicants for such a job. To not apply, would be to help others in their job hunt and is a sure fire route to the poor house.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 10:38
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It's a catch 22 isn't it?

Titan company takes on to do the work that could lead to future deteriorating conditions for your own profession!

I know now that quite a few companies was wet-leased probably some time in advance for this exact purpose.

Anyone involved in those flights, Titan, Jet 2, DAT and others, assisting to break the strike, will be publicly humiliated as being strikebreakers, I have this as first hand information.

This might or might not effect your career in the future.

The point is that there action and consequence, and I know that there is great determination in Norwegian to name and shame all the strike-breakers involved.

Unless the profession stands united, there is no hope for the future, and the race towards the bottom will continue.
They are now going into the 9.th day of strikes, and I for sure would not want to be on one of their lists when publicized afterwards!
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 10:55
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Wind your neck in truckflyer! I'm sorry for your difficulties at NAS but to threaten and intimidate others legitimately going about their work is unacceptable!
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 10:59
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I am not the one making these threats, but I have first hand information that this is in the process, and I for sure would not want to be on one of those lists!

I do though agree that we should not complain about the industry conditions, if we at least can't attempt to stand united for a cause that is determining for the whole industry!

The Norwegian strike in the end will be about union busting if the airline wins!
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 11:00
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truckflyer Your attitude sums up why respect for the pilot profession is heading to the gutter.
Anyone involved in those flights, Titan, Jet 2, DAT and others, assisting to break the strike, will be publicly humiliated as being strikebreakers, I have this as first hand information.
Dear God man, I would expect comments like that from the likes of Scargill, Red Robbo, etc, but not from a supposed 'professional' pilot? Or are you part of a new generation of 'flying' pickets!
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 11:02
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Truckflyer

It's not a Catch 22 at all.

As Crosswind limits says, I sympathise with your plight in Norwegian, but don't blame other professionals.

Pilots in airlines that have been chartered, in order to provide cover, have no choice but to go to work. To be threatened with some kind of "blacklist" action, is quite frankly, shameful.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 11:05
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I heard about this list about a week ago, and again I got information that it is being prepared and will be sent out to all the airlines in EU land.

Do not shoot the messenger! (I am not even working for Norwegian)

I am not blaming other professionals for what they have to do, but like it or not, this is what is about to happen.

We all have freedom of choice and freedom of speech.
As Norwegian pilots have the freedom of choice to provide a scab - list.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 12:05
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I will take my chances. Thanks for the warnings, but I don't take them seriously.

This is not the 1970's.

For a group of pilots who were happy to pay for their ratings in order to "get ahead", to then cry foul when others (who are employed in other countries, let alone other airlines) legitimately do their jobs is a risible situation. These pilots started the trend of allowing employers to set the agenda.

If you, Truckflyer, are the best mouthpiece the Norwegian pilots have to advertise their plight, then they need a new one. You're not doing a good job.

Enough with the nonsense, at risk of repeating myself, this isn't the 1970's.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 23:12
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Sorry my mistake, it's the NPU , pilot Union in Norway who request this

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Førde forteller at han og selskapet har sendt en anbefaling til IFALPA(Flygernes internasjonale forening) om en internasjonal svartelisting av pilotene som bryter streiken.

Translated
Forde says that he and the company has sent a recommendation to IFALPA ( pilots' union international ) for an international blacklisting of the pilots who break the strike.

Think what you want to think!

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Old 9th Mar 2015, 21:36
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Are you sure the NPU isn't referring to NAS core pilots who work through the strike rather than sub chartered companies, Truckflyer? That's how I interpreted the statement. If you interpret that as carte blanche to threaten pilots in other airlines, I don't know what that says about you, but it isn't good.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 09:42
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It's one thing to release the details of which flights have been subcontracted to which company - there is nothing wrong with that and it highlights the extent of the dispute by showing how many flights are affected, but it's quite another to attack the specific pilots of those flights who have no control over their roster and could be sacked for refusing to fly and would not have union support for doing so as they would have acted illegally. So, I find it hard to believe that the NPU would advocate an attack on other pilots put in an uncomfortable position - most of those wet lease pilots will have sympathy with the NAS pilots and NPU, so attacking them would not only be utterly despicable but ultimately counter productive - what unions would co-operate with NPU if the NPU went out of their way to compromise the other unions' members?

I hope you have misunderstood the NPU statements and intentions.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 09:49
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No I have not misunderstood, I know guys on the inside, both in the union and in the airline.

And NPU is making the request to IFALPA -The International Federation of Air Line Pilot’s Associations to publish the list.

I am in split minds over these companies and their pilots to be honest. In the end it's an own goal! And does seem a bit hypocritical if you will hear any of those complaining about the race to the bottom.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 10:27
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In which case NPU are ignorant of the law in the UK. You cannot expect people to break the law and lose their jobs and it is unfair and wrong to blacklist them.
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