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Old 2nd May 2017, 17:30
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Don't join TOM if quick time to command is important. 2 years ago time to command was about 15 years. People getting their commands now have been in the company around 10 years. People getting their command in 2 years from now, may well have been in the company significantly less than 10 years. But who knows what is around the corner and these things can change overnight. Join the company you think you might be happy in and get your command when it comes around. Or join FR and a get a command pretty munch immediately.
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Old 2nd May 2017, 18:08
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Originally Posted by mcdonnst2
Also got called. 1700tt. 400hr over 40t.

Would like to know time to command.

What do FO's clear a month?

Is the dual base just first year or every year?
The average of my last 6 pay slips has been just below 4.2k take home. Lowest FO pay scale, short haul and 3 days overtime over the 6 months. Expect a bit more in the summer.
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Old 2nd May 2017, 18:27
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Originally Posted by Boeing 7E7
Don't join TOM if quick time to command is important. 2 years ago time to command was about 15 years. People getting their commands now have been in the company around 10 years. People getting their command in 2 years from now, may well have been in the company significantly less than 10 years. But who knows what is around the corner and these things can change overnight. Join the company you think you might be happy in and get your command when it comes around. Or join FR and a get a command pretty munch immediately.
Thanks for that. You are correct. It's not everything but good to know. There is a reason some airlines have long time to command. People are happy there and wanna stay.

Thanks for the pay info too.

Any information on the dual base?
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Old 2nd May 2017, 18:29
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Originally Posted by recall_checked
The average of my last 6 pay slips has been just below 4.2k take home. Lowest FO pay scale, short haul and 3 days overtime over the 6 months. Expect a bit more in the summer.
Is that a FO base or a SO? Is this recruitment for FO starting base?
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Old 2nd May 2017, 19:18
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FO.

Recruitment for people to sit in the right seat. Rank depends on your hours. I think it's 1500 hours including 500 on a jet, but don't quote me on that. Remember to deduct £7k for the OCC costs for your first year.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 06:48
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Is there a bonded TR?
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Old 5th May 2017, 14:11
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Still waiting

Anybody else waiting for a response for the NTR role? Cutting it a bit fine if the assessments are in a week or so.
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Old 5th May 2017, 14:46
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Send them an email...

Send them an email asap, my girlfriend applied at the same time as me.. I got a PFO, she got nothing... So she emailed them yesterday and today she got an invite to assessment...

Good luck..

Let me know how it goes..
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Old 6th May 2017, 17:51
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I emailed them as I had herd nothing and I got an assessment, any idea on what the study areas should be for the tech exam , any information would be gratefully received
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Old 6th May 2017, 20:19
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Who did you email? airline.recruitment?
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Old 7th May 2017, 12:38
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Was wondering if someone could help me with a few questions.

- What are the chances of getting Gatwick as a base?
- What kind of work does the 757/767 do? Is it mostly there and back shorthaul?
- How long would it be until a successful 787 bid?
- How does the bidding system work?

Thanks
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Old 8th May 2017, 12:25
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- good
- mixture of long and short haul
- depends; but there are some very junior FO bids that have been granted.
- bidding system is a source of frustration. Think if it as purely a preferential system. Sometimes it delivers and sometimes it doesn't. But knowing just why it did or didn't delive remains a cause of frustration and confusion!
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Old 8th May 2017, 14:48
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Thomson

Got invited to an assessment day, type rated. Can anybody offer any insight to what happens on the day?

Thanks
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Old 9th May 2017, 05:58
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Thanks for that information.

What is the 73 roster in London like in winter and in summer?

What are these gold and silver days on PJN?
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Old 9th May 2017, 07:26
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Boeing 7E7 - thanks for the information
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Old 9th May 2017, 09:35
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Gold and Silver days are not 'extra days off however are a way of fixing your days off from 3 months for Silver up to 12 months for Gold days. They can be booked in pairs (or blocks of 3 on the 787). I generally use them for birthdays or maybe a bank holiday weekend. They can also be tagged on to leave days meaning 7 days of leave can be bumped up to 11 days off using a couple of golds and the automatic free days off we get around leave.

All leave and Golds/silvers are done online. There are various leave bids from the A bid (most points) down to the open bid. The A, B and C bid is done by expressing preferences and the leave desk closed for a couple of days each time to grant bids depending on a points based system. Those with the highest points are those who have had christmas or popular holidays off in the past and obviously the lowest points are those who don't care much about August/July/Xmas etc etc.

Then the bid is open on the C bid and what's left is cheap as chips point wise and if you are happy with weeks off outside of school holidays then there's usually plenty left so you can go online and get your leave. It's a live system so if it's there, it's confirmed instantly.

Hope that helps.
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Old 9th May 2017, 09:43
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Thanks for that. And the normal roster pattern?
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Old 9th May 2017, 09:46
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The base bidding system is done by filling lots of boxes (or none if you are happy with your lot) and the bid is run periodically usually twice a year to fill in blanks in the basing. For example bid one might be 787 LGW so you would put a 1 in that box however you don't want to be based at LGW on the 73 so you might put a number 2 in the 787 MAN box. If after the bid you didn't get either of them and you would prefer to stay on your current fleet at your current base then the rest of the form would be left blank.

The bidding team sit down and chews over where the spaces are and fill them with the volunteers done solely on seniority order.

It's done in strict order which has some benefits however the obvious draw back is that there have been cases where someone has been waiting for a base (EXT and BOH or example) which have been full for years but when a slot comes up, a more senior person could put a bid in the day before the bid and get the slot.

This is pretty rare though and my last bid had 28 options as I was looking for a command and I got my first preference. In fact the vast majority got option 1.

Clear as mud?
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Old 9th May 2017, 09:50
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Rosters are completely random in a nut shell....

737 busy Summer, quiet Winter
756 busy all year round with some long haul and scandinavian work in the Winter
787 90% long haul and busy all year round, again some Scandinavian work in Winter.

Minimum 11 days off per month, generally get more as lots of blank and RT days which are rest days and don't count towards days off.
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Old 12th May 2017, 12:19
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Good luck

Just wishing everyone who has an assessment day the best of luck. I haven't applied yet but will apply in the next window for NTR.
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