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Any advice?
I don't suppose any ex FO's from a large Irish 737NG operator who made the move to Thomson would like to share some of their wisdom as to whether they are happy with the change? Either publicly here or via PM? Any insight would be great
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7k reduction for training again? Obviously not that keen to attract the best applicants then, simply the best from the people who can accept a deduction from salary for a mandated CCQ when already type-rated?
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Such a shame that they have such poor initial pay. Thomson is a company I would like to consider for their regional options but there is no way I could afford to take such a paycut. I guess this would definitely put off some of the more experienced pilots.
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Anyone know what the average monthly take home pay of a year 1 FO at Thomson is? Including all hourly pay etc?
Is it now just 81% pay for the first year? Then full time contract? And 7k a year for the first 3 years for the type rating?
Apologies if this has been covered before.
Is it now just 81% pay for the first year? Then full time contract? And 7k a year for the first 3 years for the type rating?
Apologies if this has been covered before.
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Hi Ddobin
I seem to remember it was around £3500 in the summer when you're busy flying and around £2600 in the winter when you're quiet. That's assuming you have paid off your training bond already.
It's 81% for the first 5 years and then you get full time when you have completed the 5 years. The training bond is £7,000 for your first year if type rated and £7,000 per year for 3 years if not type rated so £21,000 over 3 years if not rated.
Hope this helps.
I seem to remember it was around £3500 in the summer when you're busy flying and around £2600 in the winter when you're quiet. That's assuming you have paid off your training bond already.
It's 81% for the first 5 years and then you get full time when you have completed the 5 years. The training bond is £7,000 for your first year if type rated and £7,000 per year for 3 years if not type rated so £21,000 over 3 years if not rated.
Hope this helps.
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Its not necessarily 81% for the full 5 years. 2 weeks after joining recently, we were told we could be full time for this winter, and the previous years intake have been offered full time positions. I doubt I'll be PPY at all to be honest, maybe one year at most. Granted it's always possible for those 5 years if the company decides to scale things back so it would be prudent to budget for the full 5 years being PPY but I can't see it myself.
Regarding the pay, yes it's a shame it's not full time from the start without the £7k OCC reduction, and for those who can't afford the pay cut for a year, it's a pity not being able to apply. If you can look beyond the initial figures though, it does get significantly better, 5 years in and full time command ready, the basic is about £70k. With the variable pay on top, day off payments, 10% pension, private health insurance, discounted holidays and so on, it all adds up to a decent package.
Regarding the pay, yes it's a shame it's not full time from the start without the £7k OCC reduction, and for those who can't afford the pay cut for a year, it's a pity not being able to apply. If you can look beyond the initial figures though, it does get significantly better, 5 years in and full time command ready, the basic is about £70k. With the variable pay on top, day off payments, 10% pension, private health insurance, discounted holidays and so on, it all adds up to a decent package.
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Good to know. I always think you need to actually be offered a job first before you start thinking about turning it down anyway, so it's worth applying.
It would be a significant paycut for me, but a huge boost in lifestyle.
It would be a significant paycut for me, but a huge boost in lifestyle.
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I wont be on PPY50 for long is what i thought also but over 3 years down the line only recently have i been made full time. So view this as though it could be 5 years that's all i will say. As we know the airline business changes from month to month but i'd say it changes even more in the charter market. As the offer is 5 yrs PPY50 i would read that as a solid promise and if it happens sooner than that then that is a bonus but it certainly is not guarenteed.
Company and career wise i would rather be here than BA but others may disagree...
Company and career wise i would rather be here than BA but others may disagree...
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So if you're a 737 Classic driver do you have to apply through the NTR option? And if so and successful then 7k deducted for three years for what would essentially be minimal training seems a bit excessive.
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I left Jet2 for Thomson early last year. Got made full time within 6 months and got back pay for the PPY months I'd already done.
Average take home net on PPY50 after pension contribution over the summer was about £3900 ish. With an overtime flight added into a months payslip it was about £4400 and with a couple of overtime flights was about £4800. The overtime is very lucrative. So for my first year I reckon my P60 is gonna say about £79000. Not bad considering thats minus the 7k training cost. Flew around 700 hrs including overtime.
We were lucky that we got full time quickly, hopefully the same will carry on happening. Lots of people retiring and an expanding long-haul network so wouldn't be surprised if it does. Very friendly company to work for with a fair bit of variety, short haul/long haul, round the world trips on the 757, Canada on the 737, Training FO's etc etc.. Good loss of license, private medical etc... I definately wouldnt look back. Also unlike other airlines no fear factor of making a mistake, being delayed etc.. We have a very just culture and are treated like professionals.
Average take home net on PPY50 after pension contribution over the summer was about £3900 ish. With an overtime flight added into a months payslip it was about £4400 and with a couple of overtime flights was about £4800. The overtime is very lucrative. So for my first year I reckon my P60 is gonna say about £79000. Not bad considering thats minus the 7k training cost. Flew around 700 hrs including overtime.
We were lucky that we got full time quickly, hopefully the same will carry on happening. Lots of people retiring and an expanding long-haul network so wouldn't be surprised if it does. Very friendly company to work for with a fair bit of variety, short haul/long haul, round the world trips on the 757, Canada on the 737, Training FO's etc etc.. Good loss of license, private medical etc... I definately wouldnt look back. Also unlike other airlines no fear factor of making a mistake, being delayed etc.. We have a very just culture and are treated like professionals.
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79k gross including the 7k training cost?
i doubt that unless you went to canada also?
At least be up front with people who are considering applying
my P60 has never been over 77k and thats having paid the training bond of 7k and on a full time contract and offering any available time back to the company for flexi.
i doubt that unless you went to canada also?
At least be up front with people who are considering applying
my P60 has never been over 77k and thats having paid the training bond of 7k and on a full time contract and offering any available time back to the company for flexi.
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not necessarily, im an 11 year right hand seater on the 78 and my last p60 said 103, this years will be slightly less maybe 99.... lots of flexi and time away though, not everyone's cup of tea.
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I can certainly vouch for the above mentioned figures of £77k - also my first year and I'm around that mark and I never went to Canada, this is all through high credit months, out of base and Flexi. But I would say it certainly was a bit of a hectic year rostering wise, I wouldn't expect that this year nessecarily! But hey - finally on the housing ladder!!!