BA Direct Entry Pilot.

[Megaton]

Especially when BA are only offering unused passenger sandwiches and a bag of crisps for lunch : p

What a load of tosh. Look, you might not fancy BA, but why poison the thread with your nonsense?

[hunterboy]

Harry Palmer, are you being timed out of your application form? Many of BA's systems are like this. it pays to write out your answer beforehand, and then cut and paste it when logged in. HTH.

[Stocious]

How do you know the FPP entrants from the non-FPP chaps WBF? Most of the bottom of the list seem to be fairly active types - one I spoke to recently when changing A/C was planning to cycle to Loch Lomond on a Glasgow standover!

Judging by recent comms, I'd like to hope that the SH review might not be as painful as you seem to want it to be.

[Wirbelsturm]

Judging by recent comms, I'd like to hope that the SH review might not be as painful as you seem to want it to be.

Concur with that sentiment. It seems that the requirements of the company may have already been met.

Especially when BA are only offering unused passenger sandwiches and a bag of crisps for lunch : p

What drivel. I understand you have some sort of axe to grind, why I don't know, but at least attempt to be factual. Ironically one of the longer running initiatives run by BA and BALPA is to increase the choice, content and nutritional value of the crew meals. Some are actually getting quite good. But you would know that from the cockpit of a different jet in a different company.

[SinBin]

Is this so that you can justify to your few mates down the pub as to why you failed selection? You must be just great!

[WhyByFlier]

I'll reiterate, I have failed no part of BA's selection. Weren't you an ex BMI pilot, who came to easy briefly and then went to BMI again, bypassing the selection into BA? Nevertheless, passing BA's selection doesn't make you 'great'. Nor does not being selected make anyone not 'great'.

[SinBin]

Er no! Left Bmi, went to easy, left easy, went to BA, well and truly passed selection

So why so bitter? You're a psychologists dream!

[Wirbelsturm]

There are no FACTS as you state yet as the SHBR has not been formally announced. However, the community is being led to believe that, from a flight ops department perspective, we have covered all requirements thus 'no change'. That is neither confirmed nor factual yet, purely conjecture from another place.

WBF, are you just a disgruntled ex military pilot who believes they are owed a job by a company due to their previous service? I only ask as I am also ex-military and I have never held those views neither have I ever felt I needed to belittle any companies processes. If you want to have a target then target the muppets in RAF command who covered the military dispensation agreements from National to JAR procedures and screwed everyone in the military with their ambivalence and incompetence. It's all irrelevant to me as I left long before then with national licences in hand.

Personally I don't give a stuff what you think of BA, you aren't in it so who cares. Leave the thread to those who are interested in joining the company and wish to gain some sort of 'educated' insight before deciding which way to decide.

The thought of XX years of short haul earlies and lates, again and again and again fills me with dread but you seem to like it so enjoy. I'm off Christmas shopping in the States.

[WhyByFlier]

Psychologist's you mean? I just don't like the business, the product, the arrogance, the left wing BA mantra, many of the people they've surprisingly taken or the lemming-like way these p2F types blindly dream of a BA career based upon cliched perception. I also resent a company like BA being our flag carrier. That compounded by the fact I DO like many turned away, have seen many who were turned away go on to become excellent captains and TREs and comments like your 'you must be great' following on from you're assumption that I didn't get in. You're basing your cack on the regulated past. From George Patton:

For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.

As I've said, I'm out. Toodle pip!

[Wirbelsturm]

Psychologist's you mean? I just don't like the business, the product, the arrogance, the left wing BA mantra, many of the people they've surprisingly taken or the lemming-like way these p2F types blindly dream of a BA career based upon cliched perception. I also resent a company like BA being our flag carrier. That compounded by the fact I DO like many turned away, have seen many who were turned away go on to become excellent captains and TREs and comments like your 'you must be great' following on from you're assumption that I didn't get in. You're basing your cack on the regulated past. From George Patton:

You've aired your opinion based on what you freely admit is an 'outside' view. Who ever said that those turned away aren't any good? Perhaps they just didn't perform as they wanted/expected to. Perhaps the competition on the day was of a very high standard. Perhaps they just didn't achieve the scores they needed. Who knows. In my experience people who fail an interview don't generally want to discuss it on an open forum.

I have many friends and colleagues flying for other companies who didn't pass the BA selection. That doesn't make them 'second grade' and I would challenge anyone who claimed such. It also doesn't mean they are any worse people for not passing a selection process. They are all top level aviators and people who just didn't meet the requirements of the process on that specific day. Most freely admit to making a cock-up (hmm it's edited my word due to the profanity filter!) of something along the way. That's life.

What is your 'cliched' perception? The fact that people want to work for a company is testament to the fact that the company can still attract people. If they want to work for BA then they can find out about the company easily enough warts and all and make their decision based on their perceptions not the perceptions of someone like yourself. As much as you believe your position. BA is an excellent employer with huge opportunities a fantastic route structure and many different aircraft types to train on. The company look after you exceptionally well when down route. There are challenges but that can be said for every company in the industry and chatting to Air France, Lufthansa, Al Italia and various US company pilots down route we are all facing the same challenges.

As far as being the flag carrier, tough, nobody cares if you don't like it. You are a tiny cog in a big machine industry and your opinion on matters like who is and isn't the 'Flag Carrier' are irrelevant in the big scheme of things. Just like mine.

In respect to the 'left wing mantra' where did you drag that old cliche up from? I haven't seen anything like that since the Cabin Crew strike from BASSA and look what happened to them. Ironically it was the entire company working together that defeated the left wing mantra that was Duncan Holley and his braying mob. Perhaps your views are a little outdated?

Enjoy the Orange, I know many of my friends do.

[bigdaviet]

WBF can you please create another thread to discuss your 'issues,' questions and personal arguments.

Keep this one on topic.

[Flying Wild]

Originally Posted by binsleepen

Link here

http://www.britishairways.com/career...results.shtml?

To be considered for our current vacancies you will need:

• To hold a current type rating and a minimum of 500 hours experience on an aircraft that satisfies CAP 804 FCL.730.A - Zero Flight Time Training course requirement. We would be particularly interested in hearing from candidates operating the A320/747/757/767/777/787. Training, command, or other longhaul experience would be advantageous but is not required

Regards

Are they having issues finding people for these adverts to be cropping up so often? I've got an idea - how about they include the 737. That still allows for ZFTT.

[alpha.charlie]

CAP 804 FCL.730.A

Talks about having a rating on a CS-25 turbo jet or turbo prop with MTOW of more then 10 tonnes and 19 pax.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but if you have any type rating on a plane meeting the above then you're free to apply?

[Flying Wild]

Hmmm, reading not one of my strong points it would seem

Guess I was focussing on the types they listed.

[binsleepen]

Flying wild,

RT(F)Q. or in this case the advert. This is for NTR pilots. So all of you who have been posting for the last 3-4 months asking when will they open up recruitment for those with an XXXX type rating, now is your chance. As long as you meet the requirements of FCL.730.A. For those of you unable to carry out a basic internet search... see below.

FCL.730.A

Specific requirements for pilots undertaking a zero flight time
type rating (ZFTT) course – aeroplanes

(a) A pilot undertaking instruction at a ZFTT course shall have completed, on a multi-
pilot turbo-jet aeroplane certificated to the standards of CS-25 or equivalent
airworthiness code or on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a maximum
certificated take-off mass of not less than 10 tonnes or a certificated passenger
seating configuration of more than 19 passengers, at least:

(1) if an FFS qualified to level CG, C or interim C is used during the course, 1500
hours flight time or 250 route sectors;

(2) if an FFS qualified to level DG or D is used during the course, 500 hours flight
time or 100 route sectors.

(b) When a pilot is changing from a turbo-prop to a turbo-jet aeroplane or from a turbo-
jet to a turbo-prop aeroplane, additional simulator training shall be required.


regards to all and best of luck.


PS remember to read all the instructions prior to any of the tests

[jamestkirk]

does anyone know

how many are they looking for

what are they looking for

is it now or hold pool

whats your favourite colour

[tubby linton]

Whatever they are looking for, the simulator block at Cranebank is a squalid building. The simulator I used had poor visuals and no sound for important things such as Tcas warnings or the gear retracting or extending.(Sound had been paid for!).
One of the toilets in the building had a bucket to catch urine that was leaking from one of the urinals and the other toilet had an aroma worse tnan a beachfront hole in tne ground in the sub-continent. Not exactly what you would expect from the World's favourite.

[jamestkirk]

That is everything i am looking for.

[Stocious]

Presumably they used that sim because it didn't need sound?

Shame you weren't in the new sim hall with the nice shiny new sims. It's very nice indeed.

[wiggy]

Tubby

the simulator block at Cranebank is a squalid building.

Trust us, we know, we know.................I think that bucket was there when I did my assessment in 198X and I've done my bit to fill it up every time I visit the place...

Anyhow you might be pleased to know that as Stocious has pointed out the ground training hardware (sims, SEP rigs, the lot) is in the process of moving to a brand new home inside one of the refurbished hangars at the old base area adjacent to Hatton Cross...I've not been over there but I gather it's all jolly spiffing.... and a great improvement.

Here's a link to an article about it all in a publication worthy of HIGNFY

ISG lands contract to build BA flight simulator centre ? Construction Enquirer

I'm not sure whether the bucket will get to move or not...the contract for that is probably still out to tender...