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Can't fault your optimism PressTheTit, but it might be misplaced this time...
As a fellew swimmer I'd say the above is probably true, it's unlikely any BA 78 FO's would jump to VS. What might have happened though is the BA pool might have got a bit thinner if there were people in who've now gone to VS while waiting for BA to call?!
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Virgin have a much more streamlined seniority procedure compared to BA , even if you are junior in VA you still can get some bids in due to the seniority group rotation .
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Virgin also have a history of laying junior people off when they are struggling. Which they seem to do with monotonous regularity! AFAIK BA have NEVER made compulsory redundancies!
Take your choice chaps!
Take your choice chaps!
Re FoxChaRomeo's comment from 5 July.
FWIW a very senior flight ops manager said pretty much the same in a face to face forum in the last few days, i.e. get the "graduated" FPPs waiting in the wings started, then (and here he was slightly more optimistic) go to the hold pool for perhaps 100 plus. Doing the sums it looks like a total intake of FPPs / DEPs of perhaps 200, tops,...but of course that plan is probably already out of date..............
( yes I know, somewhere somebody is muttering "I thought that selfish old f*** had "gone away"
...)
I was also told that there would be a total intake of around 150 crew in 2018, inc FPP, suggesting ~90 from the hold pool, but potentially later on in the year if the FPP guys/gals are starting first.
( yes I know, somewhere somebody is muttering "I thought that selfish old f*** had "gone away"
...)
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If indeed that is true will it be those at the front of the que or those at the back I wonder, though on a more positive outlook nobody knows the actual number of people swimming and some may already have moved elsewhere. So in conclusion i guess it makes nothing any clearer!
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Hard to tell I suppose, I've heard an inkling of a rumor they might extend the hold pool time again. Time will tell, I know 2 or 3 guys/gals in the pool are moving to different airlines or taking an upgrade at their own place.
No DEP for 2018
No DEPs at all for '18 contradicts info being put out by a v senior BA flight Ops wheel in a meeting a couple of weeks back. Then again, he could have been being kept in the dark as much as anybody else, and plans certainly change on a daily basis.
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CTC Whitetail self sponsored cadets have (or shortly will be) selected to join us in 2018/19. It would seem that they are interviewed after their ground exams are complete. Min requirements being an 85% average on their ATPLs and BBC at A-Level or equivalent. These new 'cadets' seem to be filling the hole left by the lack of FPPs once the last batch join at the end of this year/beginning of 2018.
I'm sure that it's completely coincidental that our former head of short haul joined CTC last year(!)
I'm sure that it's completely coincidental that our former head of short haul joined CTC last year(!)
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I don't want to be rude but can someone explain
Why are they putting cadets in front of 200 experienced, tried and tested proven pilots. whom most would bend over backwards to work for BA. Especially those of us coming from low cost airlines ?
Why are they putting cadets in front of 200 experienced, tried and tested proven pilots. whom most would bend over backwards to work for BA. Especially those of us coming from low cost airlines ?
Personally no idea, if they really have deliberately displaced those in the pool in favour of cadets then maybe in the current climate BA management have decided they want a younger malleable "product" 
...after all that's a concept that has worked really well with Mixed Fleet.
OTOH if you fancy darker conspiracy theories I'd refer you to the final sentence in EMB-145LR's post....it's as good a guess as any.
...after all that's a concept that has worked really well with Mixed Fleet.OTOH if you fancy darker conspiracy theories I'd refer you to the final sentence in EMB-145LR's post....it's as good a guess as any.
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A lot of the guys in the hold pool are the same age as the cadets. Who knows I guess. Very disappointed to say the least to be waiting this long with little or no information.