Volotea
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From: Belgium
You just disregard the red nav light and you go!! Captains are not supposed to be monkeys (unless they are payed peanuts and treated like in a zoo). Use your brain, of course a nav light is a nogo item but if you lose it after take off you will not turn back and do an emergency landing. That's why captains are paid for, be safe and help ops. That's what a good captain would do. Now if there is a flight controls or instruments or powerplant issue, a nogo item has to be taken seriously into consideration.
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From: Belgium
Marcobcn, be very careful with your interviews.
A nogo is a nogo, a rest is a rest, a day off is a day off, they might answer you a pfo letter is a pfo letter.
Remember that a "very good" SOPman crashed a MD11 in Halifax a few years ago because he was thinking that a checklist is a checklist. Rip.
A nogo is a nogo, a rest is a rest, a day off is a day off, they might answer you a pfo letter is a pfo letter.
Remember that a "very good" SOPman crashed a MD11 in Halifax a few years ago because he was thinking that a checklist is a checklist. Rip.
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From: Belgium
ah ah ah bobermon, thanks for your advices 
Don´t worry, you will not be unsafe in a controlled airspace between AJA and NTE at 01:00 LT with a missing red nav light. You'd be surprised to see how many flights every day that are dispatched with "omitted" defects in the techlog.
Look at happy passengers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkhsujU62s
(I used to be an engineer for a big belgium airline...)
Don´t worry, you will not be unsafe in a controlled airspace between AJA and NTE at 01:00 LT with a missing red nav light. You'd be surprised to see how many flights every day that are dispatched with "omitted" defects in the techlog.
Look at happy passengers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkhsujU62s
(I used to be an engineer for a big belgium airline...)
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From: Belgium
Fade to grey, please keep your crap suggestions for you and put them in your 
. If you don´t put "red nav light U/S" in the tech log for the very last sector then you just don´t need to think about the MEL. I guess the captain that grounded the flight for that was a bit pissed off with the management
From experience I can only tell you it is so, so easy to write something in the techlog and ground an aircraft away from base with no available qualified engineers. All captains know that they have this power available to use against crap management.
. If you don´t put "red nav light U/S" in the tech log for the very last sector then you just don´t need to think about the MEL. I guess the captain that grounded the flight for that was a bit pissed off with the management From experience I can only tell you it is so, so easy to write something in the techlog and ground an aircraft away from base with no available qualified engineers. All captains know that they have this power available to use against crap management.
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I'd suggest that with your fast and loose attitude to a MEL , you go back to being an engineer.......oh wait....
DK
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From: Suomi
New T&Cs Volotea.
Anybody on this thread with knowledge re. the new T&C at Volotea. When has this taken force? How many block hours a months, salary(compensation pr block hour) and schedule? Apparently they have low production in winter season. I appreciate any comments.
thnx P.
thnx P.
Last edited by Pilot I; 13th November 2015 at 22:59.
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@Pilot I
I applied for that position because the initial info from the recruiter was somehow incorrect and stated much better conditions as they are actually.
But I got an invitation for interview within the same afternoon of sending in my paperwork(9000 hrs total, 6000 in command, mainly airline, medium and heavy jets).
Unfortunately they sent me as well the exact(as offered) T's and C's of Volotea management and they are actually not very good.
E.g. all offered salaries are before tax, after checking italian or spanish tax calculators I was "back on earth" with my expectations.
As well they offer you a 8month contract, 4 months are either free of work(and money
), or a few flights or some part time flying with still crappy money for that period.
Then they write that you may sign a full time contract for year 2 - but that is just partly true as it depends on the company to whom they offer this full time contract. No guarantee really to get full time(and full money) for year 2 onwards.
As a new joiner you start on the B717(which is not a bad aircraft but nearly nobody operates it anymore, so a kind of useless rating regarding job security), then realisiticly you can expect to be on an Airbus by 2020(that's the time they want an all Airbus fleet).
Honestly, to many "ifs" for me and far to less money for that vague promises. I withdrew my application 3 days later...
If nobody has the correct T's and C's I have to look them up in my inbox and post them, let me know.
But IF you have a job with a more or less decent pay and a more or less acceptable roster stay away I would suggest.
I applied for that position because the initial info from the recruiter was somehow incorrect and stated much better conditions as they are actually.
But I got an invitation for interview within the same afternoon of sending in my paperwork(9000 hrs total, 6000 in command, mainly airline, medium and heavy jets).
Unfortunately they sent me as well the exact(as offered) T's and C's of Volotea management and they are actually not very good.
E.g. all offered salaries are before tax, after checking italian or spanish tax calculators I was "back on earth" with my expectations.
As well they offer you a 8month contract, 4 months are either free of work(and money
), or a few flights or some part time flying with still crappy money for that period.Then they write that you may sign a full time contract for year 2 - but that is just partly true as it depends on the company to whom they offer this full time contract. No guarantee really to get full time(and full money) for year 2 onwards.
As a new joiner you start on the B717(which is not a bad aircraft but nearly nobody operates it anymore, so a kind of useless rating regarding job security), then realisiticly you can expect to be on an Airbus by 2020(that's the time they want an all Airbus fleet).
Honestly, to many "ifs" for me and far to less money for that vague promises. I withdrew my application 3 days later...
If nobody has the correct T's and C's I have to look them up in my inbox and post them, let me know.
But IF you have a job with a more or less decent pay and a more or less acceptable roster stay away I would suggest.
