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BA CityFlyer recruitment and assessment

Old 5th Nov 2013, 16:52
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They are funny bunnies, I was in a hold pool at the end of the recruitment for the RJ and when they next recruited for the emb I found out I was kicked out BA mainline style.
So reapplied for interview and got a PFO.
Seems silly as I had jumped the hoops and passed the sim.

Oh well, I got a better job so I guess all is well.
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 19:46
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Just a few points here.
BACF are not a franchise they are a wholly owned subsidiary of BA.
Having said that if want into BA stay away. You'll not get in to BA via BACF!!
Last person to do that was before we became BA Connect no one that has applied since has been selected. Strange when we fly the Brand to the same SOP's!

Seniority at this company counts for nothing!!!!
Commands are given on a face fits system. Every few years they change the way to become an SFO and it always has a provision for them refusing the third stripe.
I know many good solid FO's who for some reason have fell foul of this and have not been offered command, and a few who should never have been offered the command and who are now sitting in the left seat.

Commands here are also taken away from captains on a too regular basis.

Why are a very large number of people, even captains leaving for Jet2?
Last count 4 on notice and a further 10+ from both seats waiting for course dates, with a few more still to sim check. Last count if the rest get offered a job it'll be around 20!! Or so the rumours go............

So for those that don't make the selection (which HR have a huge say over) it's not always a bad thing. However the people in the planes are a great bunch of people to work with.

To those who want to come here best of luck. The grass is not always greener. It's a fun job and a great bunch of people to fly with.
I like the job but after many years here I too might be on the way out.

One final note: in the past year those hired have come from various back grounds. Flybe, BMI baby, BMI regional, Loganair and Ryanair. At the moment we are have many who are ready for command with nowhere to move up. So maybe now they want people with low hours to bottom fill the FO's. First 4 button pushers (MPL) FO's start next month with a further 4 DE FO's.

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Old 5th Nov 2013, 21:42
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A fish rots from the head down, and that is the problem at BACF.

It could be a great company- but it's not.

Those of you in receipt of your PFO's....Keep looking. You'll find somewhere better.
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 18:11
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Thanks for the info. From the sounds of it, a great bunch of people to work with.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 15:54
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I got an invitation for assessment at BACF next month.
On the info letter I received that I can expect the following that day:
Competency based interview;
Group exercise; and
Numerical and verbal reasoning testing (a calculator will be provided).

Anyone who has been there and can tell a bit more about these three steps, what can I expect and can I prepare for it somehow?

Do you also know how many FOs they are looking for to hire?
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 19:58
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Well done to you! What's your experience?
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 20:35
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Around 2000 TT which 1700 on heavy jet.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 00:15
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Did you receive your invitation in the post or by email? Seems a trivial question but I recently moved and have not updated my current address details.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 07:20
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I got a phonecall,have not heard anything before that since I sent in my application.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 11:41
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So back to my first question :-)
Anyone who can help me and know what to expect on the interview, what kinds of tests,type of questions on the face to face talk and the group exercise?
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 14:00
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Why are people so excited about this company? Pay have never been great and growth has been incremental with the additions of the Embraers compared to other carriers. Yes - I have heard good things about the pilot group, but Easy, Ryan, Jet2 and some of the other charter carriers appear to be growing faster with more opportunity. Sure, these other carriers are not perfect by any stretch and the contracts they offer can vary, but they are growing faster and have more bases and more variety of flying - right? Plus, if BA is your end goal, sounds like CityFlyer would not be the choice.

I guess if you must be in London, CityFlyer is an option. Again, the CityFlyer pilot group is supposed to be top notch. Are there many Easy, Ryan, Monarch, Thomson, Jet2 pilots leaving those airlines for CityFlyer?
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 16:41
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I'm confused.

In any 'seniority based' airline that will all count against you.The kiddo who joined straight from flying school a year before you will be ahead of you for promotion. That will eventually make you grumpy and they won't want grumpy pilots in their airline, so they'll stick to employing the kiddos straight from the flying schools. These kiddos will be so heavily in debt that they can't afford to leave and repay the type-rating bond; and by the time their bond is finished they will be looking at how close they are to a command and that leaving will be throwing away their precious position on that seniority list. The airline will quite obviously prefer them rather than you. Those kids aren't 'bypassing the system', for seniority based airlines they are the system.
If this is the case, why did their requirements state:

"500 hours flight time or 100 flight sectors on an MPA"
and "Experience of flying with a commercial airline with an established SOP"
and "Hold a total flight time of 1000 hours with multi crew, multi engine experience."

Maybe that was just for the guys who don't have the MPL.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 20:07
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Wise words superpilot
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Old 9th Nov 2013, 08:51
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Anyone with an ounce of sense wouldn't leave Thomson for BACF
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Old 9th Nov 2013, 12:47
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Absolutely spot on Super Pilot.

The work/life balance should remain the over arching criteria.

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Old 13th Nov 2013, 18:26
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Anyone heard anything since Monday/Tuesday's Selection Days?
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Old 16th Nov 2013, 10:25
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Announced yesterday 3 additional E190's. 2 in Q1 and the third in September.
So more pilots needed.
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Old 19th Nov 2013, 07:49
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Anybody here that passed the interview last week and got invited to the sim?
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 18:22
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New vacancies for Ejet pilots on their website.
Closing date: December 2nd

The only difference is that now an Embraer Type Rating is mandatory

(Are they looking for the FlyBe guys?)
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 18:38
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Yes we are.
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