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Old 24th Aug 2013, 22:13
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Work for the over 60's

Fit and experienced (12,000hr+) Fixed and Rotary. No longer allowed to operate Single Pilot PT. Any ideas where to find single pilot work - either Fixed or rotary.
Ridiculous to be cut from one's profession just because of age and not because of health.
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Old 24th Aug 2013, 22:17
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Australia & NZ allow >60 to fly paying passengers, complex regs but essentially the medicals and check flights are required more often.
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Work for the over 60's

Old guy's suck, just retire and go fishing

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Old 25th Aug 2013, 06:00
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Nizwa, over 60 it's unlikely you would crack the Aus or NZ scene. Though not impossible if you have the right type ratings. But PNG welcomes pilots over 60, particularly those with good rotary or Twin Otter time.
PM me with details of your experience and I may be able to suggest a couple of likely prospects in that part of the world.

As for JTV's wind-up, my cohort have 30 years on you and I reckon any of us could still teach the average 38 year old a few tricks - and not just flying tricks either....... In fact, ageist comments from mere beginners (yes, if you are only 38 I am talking to YOU) actually inspire us grumpy old men to hog the seat for another few years just to p!ss you off.
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Old guy's suck, just retire and go fishing
don't like fishing
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Old guy's suck, just retire and go fishing
The opinion of another angry wet behind the ears newbie

Don't worry junior, you'll get your chance.
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 23:27
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"Old guy's suck."

Yeah, no teeth left!
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 07:12
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In fact, ageist comments from mere beginners (yes, if you are only 38 I am talking to YOU) actually inspire us grumpy old men to hog the seat for another few years just to p!ss you off.
Spot on!!

Maybe while this unfair age discrimination at the 'upper end' is maintained we should push for it to go to the other end of things and have the minimum age for holding a professional licence raised to 40? That would create the shortage that would mean that the older, more experienced and wiser pilots could be retained in jobs for longer...
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 07:35
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Jeeez....Old Farts!!
If your over 60 you've probably been doing this for at least 35 years, why don't you do something else with your lives? And before you get all excited and throw around the "wet ears" I'm an old geezer myself and can't wait to retire from this deteriorating business! If you don't like fishing do something else! Don't you have any friends?? Well, the way you talk about the guys you are blocking behind you my guess is not ....
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 07:44
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Old guy's suck, just retire and go fishing.
Yes, I'd love to retire but live on what, fish? I've just been told the ba**ards have raised my earliest pension age to 66. Mind you, the consolation is that todays's 38 year olds will soon have to go on till they are 70).

I like the idea of raising the minimum licensing age to 40. Younger guys are better suited to shelf stacking or supermarket trolley collecting and a bit of hard work might help the more mentally immature amongst us to grow up, too. Some could also learn where and when to use apostrophes.

Me? I did two years of hard labour shovelling (building site labourer) before getting mine.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 08:58
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In USA you can fly Part135 ops (Commuter up to 9 pax) until you drop dead.
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Perhaps Safari flights in the bush parks of Africa.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 11:22
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RAT 5 Perhaps Safari flights in the bush parks of Africa.
No if he goes down in the jungle the meat will be too tough for the lions to eat at his age.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 11:39
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Work for over 60s

Thanks for that, I spent 6 yrs flying in the bush in Africa. Much enjoyed it and would be happy to return if offered a job. Cannot afford to go out there on spec.
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 00:28
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I plan to sail in my retirement. But as boats are expensive, I will have to work to 65 to pay for it! Besides, I'm still paying for my products of the next generation who expect everything handed to them on a plate!
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At 38 I doubt JTV knows much about flying either and based on the comment, I'd say he simply doesn't know what it's like to be in his 60s. But look on the bright side, his generation isn't expected to live as long as us so I doubt he'll live long enough to experience his 60s.

Me? I'm going to buy an aeroplane when I retire so I can throw rocks at it or maybe set it on fire.

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Old 27th Aug 2013, 02:20
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Well, since quitting full time work about two years ago, I have spent a total of 12 months sailing, and still managed about 300 hours of revenue flying. As most of this has been in a training role, it can hardly be impacting on some newbie's career. In fact, quite the reverse.
Besides which, the boat needs new sails. Being old does not suck at all, but sure is expensive.
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 03:28
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If you're over 60 Mr nizwa it means you're a real pilot
(and not a magenta child like cadet JTV). This means
you have pilotage skill that can be passed on. If there
isn't any instructing job that keeps your butt in the sky
then that crack about Oz over 60 is worth looking into.

Have you considered perhaps a ground instructing
job somewhere and just maintain your PPL for the
occasional loop and barrel roll? That's what I plan
to do once I hang up my spurs.
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 03:45
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the way you talk about the guys you are blocking behind you my guess is not ....
No body under 65 is blocking anybody, 65 was the original retirement age and has now been properly restored, my career was planned to 65 and todays youngsters now have the chance to do the same. I would definitely suggest a minimum of five years in the military, doing anything, before being eligible for a CPL/IR, a starting age of 25 in aviation gives them forty years to grow a pension too.
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 09:43
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Cannot afford to go out there on spec.

Google African Safari Airways. They are linked to a hotel chain in Mombasa and they had their own a/c to fly punters from the coast to their lodges for a mixed holiday. Wilson at Nairobi is also a hub for a/c flying to the lodges, but it's very local work.
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