P2F again.
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P2F again.
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"National minimum wage laws make it illegal not to pay people classed as workers."
So how come this doesn't apply to P2F then? Or does it?
"National minimum wage laws make it illegal not to pay people classed as workers."
So how come this doesn't apply to P2F then? Or does it?
Last edited by Kelly Hopper; 20th August 2013 at 13:25.
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I'm sure it does but the problem is no one has heard of p2f, paying for jobs outside of this industry. I tell my friends and they just stare at me speechless, like they can't even comprehend it.
It needs to be explained as a warning to the general population and the people who push it and partake in it exposed.
It needs to be explained as a warning to the general population and the people who push it and partake in it exposed.
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Pay driver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hahaha sounds familiar
This may be done to gain on-track experience or to live the lifestyle of a driver in a particular series when one's talent or credentials do not merit a paying ride.
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Not the same
Some truth in the racing car world but reality is bringing sposorship with you to fund the team. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS PAYING TO FLY FARE PAYING PASSENGERS.
I very much doubt Vettel or Hamilton or even the most junior F1 driver would pay to take you around a track.
I very much doubt Vettel or Hamilton or even the most junior F1 driver would pay to take you around a track.
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A good few years ago I bumped into a young dutch lad who was paying Astraeus the princely sum of 25k for 500 hrs in a 757, he was required to fly a normal roster, weekends, night flights and to cover standby, all while being unpaid. Sadly while some consider it the only way to gain experience, the unscrupulous operator will continue to take advantage. The regulatory authorities seem unwilling to stop this gross abuse. Is it not time somebody in government grew some balls and legislated against what I perceive as a total injustice.
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Dear Artie,
Yes done a few years ago, sadly however the MP concerned did not see much mileage in the issue. A blind eye tends to be turned after all the success stories emanating from the LCC's these days. My MP only considers how to further his career after all
Hardly a rant dear fellow!!!!
Yes done a few years ago, sadly however the MP concerned did not see much mileage in the issue. A blind eye tends to be turned after all the success stories emanating from the LCC's these days. My MP only considers how to further his career after all
Hardly a rant dear fellow!!!!
Last edited by saddest aviator; 27th August 2013 at 16:22.
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Sadly Artie, a loud voice is only good if someone will listen, in my experience of nearly 30 years in this industry, we pilots are a bunch of selfish egotists who think ethical behaviour is something for lesser mortals. IMHO at least 70% of professional pilots think only of themselves not of the demise of our profession as a whole. I'm so tired of sticking my head above the parapet to no avail, little thanks from any of our fellow pilots anyhow. They are all big on words without the backbone to follow through! Look at the continual rants about RYR none of them have the balls to do anything and hence they get treated by their macho management just the way they deserve.
