Unemployment abroad
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Unemployment abroad
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First of all, i did not where to put this question, so mods feel free to move it.
Lets say you are working in the ME or Asia. Since you are working there you are also living there, meaning having your domicile overthere. Tomorrow your employer decides to resign you. So from one day to the other jobless in a foreign country. Not having a own home in your homecountry and being single. What would you do since social security in those countries is non existing. I have no clue what i should do? Who was in that situation?
First of all, i did not where to put this question, so mods feel free to move it.
Lets say you are working in the ME or Asia. Since you are working there you are also living there, meaning having your domicile overthere. Tomorrow your employer decides to resign you. So from one day to the other jobless in a foreign country. Not having a own home in your homecountry and being single. What would you do since social security in those countries is non existing. I have no clue what i should do? Who was in that situation?
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Pick a civilised country! I'm working in Switzerland - I pay all the full social contributions and taxes like everyone else there - if I am made redundant or I'm unemployed I receive the same excellent benefits that anyone else would receive.
My best advice - pick countries with good animal welfare - if they're kind to animals then they'll treat humans in a very civilised way. China for example couldn't be much worse. Don't be surprised.
My best advice - pick countries with good animal welfare - if they're kind to animals then they'll treat humans in a very civilised way. China for example couldn't be much worse. Don't be surprised.
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Firstly it is rare and rather difficult to change your domicile, this is determined by your country of birth, more accurately the country of your fathers birth.
You will just be a stranger in a strange land. You may be able to get re-employed depending on local rules and regs. At the end of the day when you go to work abroad make sure your escape plan is in place.
Plan for the worse case and have the required resources and you should be good.
You will just be a stranger in a strange land. You may be able to get re-employed depending on local rules and regs. At the end of the day when you go to work abroad make sure your escape plan is in place.
Plan for the worse case and have the required resources and you should be good.
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Woody,
First of all, my commiserations at finding yourself in this situation. A general rule for any expat that I find helpful is to always have enough cash in the bank to live for 6-12 months and always have somewhere to run to if necessary. Not easy if you are a relatively new expat I know.
If you return to EU there may be tax implications so if you can search for another job from your current expat location that would help. If finances don't allow that then, fair enough, you have no choice.
One of the harsh realities of expat pilot employment is that it is a lot easier to get a job if you already have one, so the only practical advice I can offer is not to be proud and accept anything that keeps you flying, pays the bills and doesn't commit you to an extortionate bond.
Good luck. I have been where you are now and it isn't nice.
First of all, my commiserations at finding yourself in this situation. A general rule for any expat that I find helpful is to always have enough cash in the bank to live for 6-12 months and always have somewhere to run to if necessary. Not easy if you are a relatively new expat I know.
If you return to EU there may be tax implications so if you can search for another job from your current expat location that would help. If finances don't allow that then, fair enough, you have no choice.
One of the harsh realities of expat pilot employment is that it is a lot easier to get a job if you already have one, so the only practical advice I can offer is not to be proud and accept anything that keeps you flying, pays the bills and doesn't commit you to an extortionate bond.
Good luck. I have been where you are now and it isn't nice.
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Tx bananas..... for your input.
No, i dont have a place to run to if things go wrong. Im just a normal single guy with no own house or flat. I had a good thought about it. It might make sense to go abroad, if and only if, they pay well. Meaning i can save a lot if things go wrong. But the last joboffer was even so terrible that this was not even the case. Working as an expat looks nice at first glance but you also have to look to the numbers and consider other implications. Like a previous poster said: pick the country carefully.
No, i dont have a place to run to if things go wrong. Im just a normal single guy with no own house or flat. I had a good thought about it. It might make sense to go abroad, if and only if, they pay well. Meaning i can save a lot if things go wrong. But the last joboffer was even so terrible that this was not even the case. Working as an expat looks nice at first glance but you also have to look to the numbers and consider other implications. Like a previous poster said: pick the country carefully.
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"always have enough cash in the bank to live for 6-12 months and always have somewhere to run to if necessary"
This advice from Bananas is the best on this thread so far. I work in Saudi and last year had a slight run-in with my employer and faced immediate cessation of contract, do not pass Go, do not get any benefits. Fortunately, after some delicate negotiations, The decision was reversed. I now have 6+ months of living expenses in an account and a bolt-hole.
The benefits of being an expat, experiencing another country and culture and (of course) tax free salary is a great experience, especially if you have family. It is wise to ask the question on a forum like this and seek some advice.
Good luck in your choice.
This advice from Bananas is the best on this thread so far. I work in Saudi and last year had a slight run-in with my employer and faced immediate cessation of contract, do not pass Go, do not get any benefits. Fortunately, after some delicate negotiations, The decision was reversed. I now have 6+ months of living expenses in an account and a bolt-hole.
The benefits of being an expat, experiencing another country and culture and (of course) tax free salary is a great experience, especially if you have family. It is wise to ask the question on a forum like this and seek some advice.
Good luck in your choice.
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Tx swept. Lucky for you things turned out positively. In my search for another job, i stick with europe (uk, benelux). Yes chances are slim. But going to the ME or Far East is not an option for me i think. Besides, sometimes im feeling like a gipsy. Time to settle has approached. Being fed up of owning only suitcases.
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Firstly it is rare and rather difficult to change your domicile, this is determined by your country of birth, more accurately the country of your fathers birth.
you were probably referring to a different and unrelated concept, a quick google search reveals there may be such a thing, namely "domicile of origin" in certain common-law-countries, but I can't see how this is related to the op's question.
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Perhaps I could of explained better and perhaps I misread the OP . Unless one is on an immigrant work program with a country like Australia or working for a multinational like Shell then the fall back is the land of our fathers, where ever that maybe.
I fully expect subject to the perils of life to end up in an old folks home in my home country.
If I was fired by my present employer and could not get another job then like most people I suspect I would return home, as you say domicile of origin.
I fully expect subject to the perils of life to end up in an old folks home in my home country.
If I was fired by my present employer and could not get another job then like most people I suspect I would return home, as you say domicile of origin.
