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Old 26th Aug 2018, 10:28
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I was told to expect to gross about £122,000 for LGW, which is about £6,200 net or £5,500 if you put approx. 18% into your pension to stay just under the £100,000. I don’t believe it’s 95% for the first six months, I certainly hope not if they also expect you to pay for the damn type rating!

I believe new internal command upgrades are on 90% of basic salary for the first 6 Months, probably to recoup ‘training costs’.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 12:07
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Dct_Mopas, interesting read, thank you, I had no idea you lose your personal alliance if you earn above 100k.

Also does anyone know roughly how long you stay in the hold pool for LGW DEC?
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Deano777 View Post
Dct_Mopas, interesting read, thank you, I had no idea you lose your personal alliance if you earn above 100k.

Also does anyone know roughly how long you stay in the hold pool for LGW DEC?

They say they hope to be able to offer a course within 12 months, at a ‘mutually agreeable’ date (most need to give 3 months notice), I know some have been in for nearly a year and only just accepted a course (having turned down earlier offers for other bases), others have been in for 4 months and recently accepted offers, this is all for LGW. Depends on your notice period and their requirements and training resources.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 13:04
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Certainly was the case for DEC that you were on 90% for first 6 months. Not sure if that’s still the case.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by FlyboyUK View Post
Certainly was the case for DEC that you were on 90% for first 6 months. Not sure if that’s still the case.

I dont think that is the case if you’ve to pay for £22,000 for the type rating. If you elect for the TRSS they deduct £611 per month for 36 months, if they take a further 10% for 6 months it starts to get ridiculous!
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 14:23
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It was the case when paying for the type rating up front previously when the TRSS scheme didn’t exist, it may be different now.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 15:45
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Just so everyone understands, the bit about 62% is due to a sneaky rule whereby your ‘personal allowance’ is reduced for salaries above £100k. The 62% only applies to that portion between £100k - £120k (maybe a slightly different value but the effective tax rate is correct). If you earn £122k and put zero into your pension and buy no shares (neither of which is very sensible) then you will take home £6198 per month on average. If you are flying loads of summer sectors (ie 100 hours flight time) then that sum could go upwards. It is not sustainable and you will fly less, and therefore earn less, over the rest of the year. The £6198 is the average figure over the whole year. It is very inefficient tax wise but you can do it. The only way to increase that amount is to have a non-standard tax code, which is possible if you paid too much tax, for example, the previous year.

Regarding £146k a year, that is not possible for a first year captain without loyalty bonus payments. It will take you a few years to earn that.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 19:24
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Originally Posted by QR777X View Post
I have seen a couple of pay slips with a net salary of £6400 during the ground/induction course (£8778 gross plus roughly £1000 for ground duty). I don't understand how it's possible to get less when training is over. I have been told I can expect £6800 average (maybe with a few layovers). All these numbers are confusing!
9778 gross over 12 months is 6050 after tax with no pension contributions.
Of course, the first few months and depending what you were doing before your net on the pay slip will be higher, time for the tax office to realise you will do this or more all the year and not just one extra months ... But at the end, you will pay the tax you own them.

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Old 26th Aug 2018, 19:58
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Cheers for the UK figures to those who posted. Anyone able to offer an idea of typical net values for the Portuguese bases and Berlin for comparison?
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 22:34
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I have just been flying with a Portuguese guy based in OPO. I discovered, to my astonishment, that part of Portuguese law is that they get paid for 14 months' work each year (one extra month in the summer to cover holidays and one at Christmas)! It is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard of and he was waxing lyrical about how good the contract is there - the world's best kept secret etc. Maybe others with more insight can share, but he was quoting monthly figures of around €7-8,000. Seems alright to me. I am a UK based easyJet guy so I am not an authority on such matters, but it was a very interesting conversation nonetheless.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Count of Monte Bisto View Post
I have just been flying with a Portuguese guy based in OPO. I discovered, to my astonishment, that part of Portuguese law is that they get paid for 14 months' work each year (one extra month in the summer to cover holidays and one at Christmas)! It is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard of and he was waxing lyrical about how good the contract is there - the world's best kept secret etc. Maybe others with more insight can share, but he was quoting monthly figures of around €7-8,000. Seems alright to me. I am a UK based easyJet guy so I am not an authority on such matters, but it was a very interesting conversation nonetheless.
A captain who's been in the company 5 years, paying full local Portuguese tax (assuming wife not working and 1 or 2 kids) can expect a net annual take home of €90,000. That's not including the performance bonus (up to 20% basic salary gross).

If you've got any questions count, feel free to PM me. Needless to say, it's one hell of a lot better than it used to be.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 17:19
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Could anyone confirm what the current TR cost is for a direct entry FO? Is it still at the £30k mark?
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Shadyxc2 View Post
Could anyone confirm what the current TR cost is for a direct entry FO? Is it still at the £30k mark?
Its £22k , deductible by salary of £611 for 36 months only if you are uk based.
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 15:46
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Originally Posted by patelv6 View Post
Its £22k , deductible by salary of £611 for 36 months only if you are uk based.
Are FO's allowed to opt in to the bond payment scheme? I thought it was for Captains only.
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 20:35
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Its not a bond. Its a loan from the company - you pay £22k either way, whether it's up front, or spread over three years, it makes little difference. I thought FOs did get access to it, but if you don't, you're not missing out on much. (It's way worse than the Norwegian 787 bond, which ironically gets much more bad comments).

Actually there is a bond - £10,000 .... on TOP of the £22,000!!

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Old 8th Sep 2018, 00:11
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Have any NTR FOs received start dates recently?
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 00:45
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Originally Posted by Daz80 View Post


A captain who's been in the company 5 years, paying full local Portuguese tax (assuming wife not working and 1 or 2 kids) can expect a net annual take home of €90,000. That's not including the performance bonus (up to 20% basic salary gross).

If you've got any questions count, feel free to PM me. Needless to say, it's one hell of a lot better than it used to be.
why is the pay so low? Jetblue gets more than double that and Southwest, triple. You guys need ALPA.
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 07:14
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why is the pay so low? Jetblue gets more than double that and Southwest, triple. You guys need ALPA.
First of all, Portugal is one of the poorest Western European countries where the cost of living is extremely low, wages are low and taxes are high. Netting 90k in Portugal....you’ll live extremely well in the country or downtown of the capital city. Better than a Jetblue pilot would live in downtown Manhattan. Plus it’s a beautiful, warm country. I’ve never worked for easyJet, and I have nothing to do with Portugal so I don’t feel like I’m being biased.

You also need to remember that it’s not so much that European pilots are paid poorly, it’s more a case of US pilots are paid very well. You can trust us on this, because a lot of us have researched jobs abroad and with the exception of China, any airline that offers more pay is usually in a country where it’s very expensive to live or there’s a big catch.
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 09:27
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To give some perspective, you’d do well to net £75k in the U.K. That’s full time with 10% loyalty. When you compare the cost of living U.K. vs Portugal and quality of life, I’d say the Portuguese contract is far better than is given credit for.
I’ve just spent 6 months in Porto and what a fantastic place it is. I will miss it for sure. Just a different vibe than Luton...
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 13:17
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Could anyone give a heads up in the recruitment process please.
I have an online test to do first
Thanks.
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