Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)
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From: Limbo
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...an-bid-456397/
"It's a pity – I still hope they succeed," he adds, citing concerns around recent financial challenges faced by Norwegian, particularly regarding fuel costs and hedging.
But Walsh goes on to praise the "exceptional job" done by Norwegian's chief executive Bjorn Kjos, such as the proof-of-concept work relating to long-haul low-cost operations.
"He's proven, if not to everybody but certainly to us, that the market exists and the customer will embrace the business model."
"It's a pity – I still hope they succeed," he adds, citing concerns around recent financial challenges faced by Norwegian, particularly regarding fuel costs and hedging.
But Walsh goes on to praise the "exceptional job" done by Norwegian's chief executive Bjorn Kjos, such as the proof-of-concept work relating to long-haul low-cost operations.
"He's proven, if not to everybody but certainly to us, that the market exists and the customer will embrace the business model."
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From: Ilmington, Warwickshire
O’Leary has always had a real chip on his shoulder about Norwegian. Not quite sure, if he’s that confident of his own business model, why he has to go on and on about DY so much? Maybe I’ve missed it, but he doesn’t seem to bitch about EZY in quite the same way.
MOL doesn’t like to admit FR lost a lot of pilots to DY a couple of years ago which caused the shortage and cancellations at FR - not rostering issues which were given as the excuse then by him
MOL doesn’t like to admit FR lost a lot of pilots to DY a couple of years ago which caused the shortage and cancellations at FR - not rostering issues which were given as the excuse then by him
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From: Limbo
O’Leary has always had a real chip on his shoulder about Norwegian. Not quite sure, if he’s that confident of his own business model, why he has to go on and on about DY so much? Maybe I’ve missed it, but he doesn’t seem to bitch about EZY in quite the same way.
MOL doesn’t like to admit FR lost a lot of pilots to DY a couple of years ago which caused the shortage and cancellations at FR - not rostering issues which were given as the excuse then by him
MOL doesn’t like to admit FR lost a lot of pilots to DY a couple of years ago which caused the shortage and cancellations at FR - not rostering issues which were given as the excuse then by him
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From: UK
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...an-bid-456397/
"It's a pity – I still hope they succeed," he adds, citing concerns around recent financial challenges faced by Norwegian, particularly regarding fuel costs and hedging.
But Walsh goes on to praise the "exceptional job" done by Norwegian's chief executive Bjorn Kjos, such as the proof-of-concept work relating to long-haul low-cost operations.
"He's proven, if not to everybody but certainly to us, that the market exists and the customer will embrace the business model."
"It's a pity – I still hope they succeed," he adds, citing concerns around recent financial challenges faced by Norwegian, particularly regarding fuel costs and hedging.
But Walsh goes on to praise the "exceptional job" done by Norwegian's chief executive Bjorn Kjos, such as the proof-of-concept work relating to long-haul low-cost operations.
"He's proven, if not to everybody but certainly to us, that the market exists and the customer will embrace the business model."
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From: Botswana
Struggling to understand Walsh’s comments. So Kjos has proven that there is a market for people who can’t normally afford to fly long haul to pay £170 to fly to Los Angeles, well no excrement, Sherlock!! Just like there are people who want to pay £200 for a 65” LG OLED TV, trouble is it doesn’t make money! Surely that’s the whole point here. How exactly has Kjos proved that low cost long haul works when his company is losing money hand over fist? The only thing he has proved is that there are people willing to pay a bargain basement unbundled fare, which should have been bloody obvious from the beginning. The thing we definitely know is that it still requires a hard business product to actually pay for the thing and start to make money. Norwegian don’t have this and won’t until they change their business model. And we’re back where we started...
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From: FUBAR
Their Winter struggles will be stretched to the MAX now. . . . . . . . . . sure Boeing will have to cough up, but, like the 1st and 2nd chapter of the Dreamliner debacles, the money doesn't arrive in the account overnight and probably never truly covers the lost revenue and costs of subbing in a replacement.
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From: UK
Their Winter struggles will be stretched to the MAX now. . . . . . . . . . sure Boeing will have to cough up, but, like the 1st and 2nd chapter of the Dreamliner debacles, the money doesn't arrive in the account overnight and probably never truly covers the lost revenue and costs of subbing in a replacement.
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From: Outta town
Everyones looking at the increasingly dire situation @ Norwegian , but what about Jet2 ‘s financial state? Heavily indebbted to its creditors , and huge orders for 737s 800s . Maybe this type will also be grounded next ?
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From: UK
Wow. Not sure you could have misunderstood the situation more if you tried. I don’t work for them, but I gather Jet2 are doing very nicely, i.e. they are profitable. Norweigian on the other hand...
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From: Amantido
Why would they ground the - 800s in the first place?
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From: Almost horizontal
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From: Helsinki
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From: Helsinki
Now the salary for CPTS is a payscale of 12 steps (years) going from 7801€ to 11865€. Thats basic, you can expect per diems on top to cover your bills when you are away from base. Pension is 4%… The scandinsvian deals are much better than what they offer outside Scandinavia.. ex employees who return after previous layoffs will start again with their previous seniority…
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From: Netherlands
Now the salary for CPTS is a payscale of 12 steps (years) going from 7801€ to 11865€. Thats basic, you can expect per diems on top to cover your bills when you are away from base. Pension is 4%… The scandinsvian deals are much better than what they offer outside Scandinavia.. ex employees who return after previous layoffs will start again with their previous seniority…