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Old 28th Jun 2013, 07:11
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Grrr

If and it's a big if, all the A300 pilots stay with Monarch rather than retire then just to keep the same passanger capacity at least another 2 (or 3) full airframe sets of crews will have to be recruited. I would say this is at least another 30 pilots required on top of planned fleet capacity expansion before next summer season.

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Old 28th Jun 2013, 08:43
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Alloy/mesh - all this sounds promising for a bit of ongoing recruitment over the next few months! It hasn't been a secret though that the A300s have been getting a bit long in the tooth for a while - and in need of replacement.

Mesh - I still reckon there'll be some long haul in the future, although to what extent I don't know. If (and it's a really really big IF!), I do succeed on getting into monarch, I'll gladly buy you a beer if I'm wrong!!

On a separate note, is there any reason why Monarch would opt for Boeing of bombardier over airbus? (Cost aside!) - I guess it would make sense to keep the fleet as a single family series? Mind you, the sales pitch of the C-series seems to be winning over a few at the moment.

No doubt all will come clear come September!
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Old 30th Jun 2013, 09:48
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The C series is an interesting aircraft, but i guess much will depend on what strategy Monarch have going forward, if you can fill aeroplanes and i guess monarch do then the 737 is cheaper per seat costs than the Airbus, but it would be a huge retraining effort, all the more so if they took some C series into the mix, it might work for some smaller airports but i can't see LCY being in any way relevant to Monarch and if the pilots are all on the same salary grading then loss of 54 seats on the C would need a massive saving in running and purchases costs.

It ought to be a simple Boeing -v- Airbus with the 738max & 787 -v- 320/21Neo & 330/350, i guess much will depend on delivery time tables from both manufactures, but lead times on a new order must be out to 2016/17 from both?
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 08:33
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The A300s are now all leaving by the end of March 2014 to be replaced by 320/1s so three plus aircraft to recruit for summer 2014.
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 09:41
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Are there any plans to open up the online application system again in the near future, anyone? Mesh?

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Old 1st Jul 2013, 17:11
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I believe recruitment for Autumn/winter courses is now complete.

Mon will be looking to recruit around 50 FO's at the back end of next year though, all subject to change of course...
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 17:38
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Yep, as stated earlier all done for this winter, just a few taken to fill a slot Pre Christmas. As above we have just heard around 50 more places to be recruited for next year. To early to say when they will join us, clearer picture once fleet announcement later in the year
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 17:47
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Thanks for the info, but does that mean Monarch will need to open up the online application system again or will that come from the current pool of applicants?
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 18:57
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nobody can answer that even the recruiters at this stage
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 21:02
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When the email about being placed in a holding pool for Summer 2013/Winter 2014 interviews first came out they had already hired around 100 pilots. As one of the guys who applied around June 2012 and who received this email, I thought my interview opportunity was surely around the corner. Since then many more have been invited and hired but no such opportunity has manifested itself and along with many others I haven't received a rejection either which proves to an extent that Monarch are honouring their hold pool system (can't say for certain if its based on application date). Now with talk of a possible 50 being hired late next year I get the feeling I'm about 1 out of at least another 200 in the hold pool. I'm no expert, but the stats are quite obvious. I highly doubt, the online application will be opening this year or next.
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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 14:17
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@ Mesh,

I work for the company... But a little confused! So we took 100 on over the space of last winter. We have run interviews recently for more Pilots. There is talk of 50 more. The people who have been interviewed for courses this autumn, are they the 50? Or have we recruited a certain number already and the number has just gone up by 50? Having read the forum I had the impression we were only taking 50 in total after the initial 100 of this year due to a scaling back of expansion..
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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 15:19
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For what it's worth - and this applies to any airline.

Even if you are told you are "in the pool"; If/When you hear that they might be recruiting, or about to recruit; Print off a new CV and a covering letter and get in the car and take it to the head office in person that same day and give it to someone significant.... I speak from experience.

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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 17:43
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Circa recruited this year, around 50 more next year dependant upon what fleets we end up with
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Old 5th Jul 2013, 15:34
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Worth also bearing in mind, that the current intention is to retire two complete fleets over the next 18 months. That is a lot of pilots being churned within the company, and consequently a sizeable re-training commitment.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 20:42
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MPL push?

According to PPJN:

Monarch pilot jobs, payscales and entry requirements.

MPL cadets seem to be preferred choice.

I know of several highly experienced guys on long term hold in pool and some ex mil turned down despite excellent skills and background.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 21:28
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Why do you say we prefer MPL? We have recruited circa 110 FO's over the last year and less than a handful are MPL. I can't say anything about long term hold poolers and the reasons for them not being employed but we do interview a lot of experienced guys both military and non military and they don't get through for a number of reasons most of which you can guess. As stated before we still like a mix and it works well. We welcome the new MPL guys and are confident they will work out very nicely. Believe it or not we usually find CTC low houred guys very motivated and open to our training and they tend to do very well. The extra training sectors tend to be used on guys with some experience that need to be re-trained in certain areas as with most airlines.
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:10
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Just received this. That would appear to be that.



Dear Applicant

With reference to our previous correspondence to you, we would like to take this opportunity to update you on our
current position.

Our 2013 recruitment programme is now complete as our courses are now fully assigned and it is not anticipated at this
time to commence any further recruitment this year. We would like to advise you however, that it could well be 2014
before any additional recruitment is required as we are now waiting for fleet forecast for the 2014 period. Please be
assured that your details will remain on file for the time being and we will contact you again toward the end of the
year once our forecast has been confirmed to advise if your application has been progressed through to the next stage
for 2014 recruitment.

Thank you for your continued interest in Monarch and we hope to be back in contact again in the not too distant future.

Yours faithfully



Group Recruitment HR Team
Monarch
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:10
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For those of you clinging onto that last shred of hope, here's the latest from HR:

With reference to our previous correspondence to you, we would like to take this opportunity to update you on our
current position.

Our 2013 recruitment programme is now complete as our courses are now fully assigned and it is not anticipated at this
time to commence any further recruitment this year. We would like to advise you however, that it could well be 2014
before any additional recruitment is required as we are now waiting for fleet forecast for the 2014 period. Please be
assured that your details will remain on file for the time being and we will contact you again toward the end of the
year once our forecast has been confirmed to advise if your application has been progressed through to the next stage
for 2014 recruitment.

Thank you for your continued interest in Monarch and we hope to be back in contact again in the not too distant future.

Yours faithfully
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:39
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Me too, frustrating, but nice to be kept in the know I suppose.
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:39
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Same here - email received and read.

You're quite right coupled - that's that. So maybe the end of this year then, may not be depending on fleet review/order later this year. Suspect we'd all thought that was the case anyway.

Chins up...
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