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Old 1st Dec 2011, 22:10
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Strange Virus at Czech Airlines?

Today 26 flights were cancelled due to an unexplainable virus raging amongst CSA pilots. Or was it some crazy new bacteria? Anyhow, almost 100 pilots had to call in sick during the day...

Hope you all get well soon, folks
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Seen it before

I think it is the iwantadequaterumuneration virus that can at times be quite nasty.
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they got a cure for that, it s called, if i remember, p2j??, or p2f???.

ah yes, PAY TO FLY !!!

and it work with injection.

injection ,around 50'000 E for the cure..
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Pressure tactics from the company to force a cure. Anyone caught taking a sick leave today INCLUDING a note from a doctor fully confirming a medical problem, are being placed on administrative leave. Btw, the initial problem that caused our pilots to be unnerved and of course, high stress, low resistance...is that CSA is transferring assets from the mainline to a charter 'sister' company which operates under different T&C's....of course more performance based..alas the line pilot working in this company (HCA) has no control over scheduling.
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I was deadheading in 2009 and 2010 often with CSA, great people who assisted me in many ways. From that time I remember they where threatend with paycuts and more sickening measures. Maybe the seed placed at that time back now caused the illness around. No wonder.

I truly hope that the health getīs better together with some wealth as well.
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Is the virus active in Iceland?
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Virus...

....many thanks to the Dutch, Bulgarian and German carriers who stepped in to restore capacity. Without them, quite a few passengers would have been stranded.

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That's probably referring to our ACMI operation in Iceland...that's actually the HCA (Holiday Czech Airlines)...a subdivision of CSA where the current management is shape shifting assets. I don't believe our colleagues were exposed to the virus nor were they expected to be exposed to the virus.
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Yeah the ACMI operations...no they were never affected by the virus thing...

Management is not responsible for constantly deteriorating T&Cs. It is the pilots. One great stupid bunch of i*****.
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Management is not responsible for constantly deteriorating T&Cs. It is the pilots. One great stupid bunch of i*****.
Somebody once said to me - "never post after you came back from the pub"

You obviously never met that chap did you.

Ah Iceland, generally very nice people who were screwed by a very tiny minority of their folk. The whole population will pay for decades for the greed of a few.

Next year I want to go on holiday to Palma - second thoughts - Malaga will be better as Palma sounds too much like Palmi.
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Somebody once said to me - "never post after you came back from the pub"

You obviously never met that chap did you.
I am referring to the current situation at Czechoslovak Airlines. The ATR pilots are expected to have their wages cut by 40 percent in the near future. Protests from the companys other fleets have been "very mild" up to date.

I stick to my statement.
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Just to correct LE a little bit, the replacement aircraft that I know of for sure come from VIA...a Bulgarian charter operator. Our Dutch colleagues were extremely helpful and if it wasn't for VNV, I suspect that we would have quite a bit more replacement aircraft. The IFALPA mutual assistance didn't come out until this morning because the situation was so quick, and spiraled out of control...meaning that it was the individual act of assessing one's health and making a no-go decision...a kind of blue flu.

All the pilots on sick leave were, or will be placed on administrative leave with no scheduled flying until further notice, including the ones with doctor notes. One question that arises is if a pilot employed by HCA and working under that AOC can fly CSA mainline airplanes and vice versa. Two different AOC's and two different companies....strange stuff.
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The stakes are high, and this whole deal sounds like right out of scum like orensteins play book, the good ole alter ego airline, the race to the bottom, all the while the "fine" govt. "managers" line their pockets, all in the name of saving the company, and having zero accountability. Why even lorenzo would be proud, the XX% of the pilots going to the alter ego HCA will get the broom stick just not the Vaseline, good luck out there!!!!
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Originally Posted by Bratko
and this whole deal sounds like right out of scum like Ornstein's play book, the good ole alter ego airline
Frank Lorenzo, actually.
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Funny you mention that...I use that name in my dispatches from the front....part of that loving feeling on Thursday was a quick conversation with the HR dork and his gorillas who came out to advise us that our ID cards are blocked, access to the intranet denied, and our presence not welcomed on company property. Unfortunately, someone forgot about the logic of things and when I actually wanted to get out, I couldn't. Hired enforcers guarded all the exits and insisted that I use my ID to get out...the same one that was blocked. Then, I blocked the car exit because....you guessed it.......
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Is the virus active in Iceland?
- no, that is 'Rockitis' and only affects senior management.
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Yeah Frank Lorenzo...

But these guys at Czechoslovak Airlines are worse. Not only are they violating all kinds of laws and rules, they are also incredibly dumb.

Well there could be now a discussion about democracy and human rights in general - what we see now is the fact that even after the fall of the iron curtain the commitment to democracy is only a lip service. Once scratching at the surface a deep rot becomes visible and a bad smell spoils the nice stage of democracy so frentically adopted back in 1989.

What I have seen and experienced up at the fifth floor a couple of days ago, where bodyguards denied myself a free access to the cantine to grab something to drink, the threat to call the police to "remove" myself off the premises, made me speechless to say the least. More, the fact that head of HR resources handed out, personally, those letters with a red face and loud voice shows how little the iron curtain has lifted yet and how shallow the understanding of human rights and free speech is still today.
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You are a poet LE....
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Nay. I am just mad at the whole world (behind the iron curtain).
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Make no mistake about ,it remember NBU ? These thugs will stop at nothing. Things really have come full circle in this place, and when push comes to shove the dirt bags go right back to old commie games. Hostages have been taken.

The management is appointed by the govt, and every needs to get theirs, and they have and will use any means to move thier agenda forward, this time lets try....move the entire operation over to HCA, take a 50% pay cut across the board, file for another AOC, move others assets and repeat.......

They have been quite sucessful at diving the pilot group as LE so eloquently put, and now is the time to stand together, as all pilots will be under the HCA cert, if allowed to parcel out ANY mainline flying
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