India to ease out foreign pilots!
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The biggest problem you will find with this statement is that Indian pilots working in foreign countries only do so because those foreign countries (UAE, Qatar, Singapore) could not source locally at some point in time. As all of these countries will will need foreigners to sustain growth for some time to come, throwing only the Indians out would of course not work because there would be nothing to gain as you'd be hard pressed to find an Emirati, Qatari or Singaporean pilot who wants to work in India. I.e. there is no benefit associated with receiving the same and fair reciprocal treatment.
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There's a cardinal rule in Indian Aviation, Don't EVER let the DGCA get under your skin. These are pen pushing "babus" who hate pilots. Every once in a while they need to come out and puff their chest out and talk big about getting rid of foreign pilots in order to appease the public who have no idea why the foreign pilots are there. Both the public, and also some in the DGCA, are so unknowledgeable about aviation that they don't understand why the foreign pilots are around. They think that these foreign pilots have simply showed up and taken the place of Indian pilots for no good reason.
You can't let this get to you, they've talked about getting rid of foreign pilots before and they'll do it again. At the end of the day the airlines will decide based on their needs, the DGCA don't have a clue about aviation so I wouldn't get all emotional or angry over the comments they make.
You can't let this get to you, they've talked about getting rid of foreign pilots before and they'll do it again. At the end of the day the airlines will decide based on their needs, the DGCA don't have a clue about aviation so I wouldn't get all emotional or angry over the comments they make.
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With the huge growth in aviation in India (double the GDP) and with hundreds of aircraft on order the expats will be around for quite a few years.
The DGCA should be more worried about the safety and training standards than phasing out expats.
The DGCA should be more worried about the safety and training standards than phasing out expats.
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From article above:
Seems to be a bit of confusion on the whole issue of who is what?! 
Or do they mean they don't have any pilots at all with "sufficient experience"?
He says India’s domestic supply of veteran pilots—who possess sufficient experience to work as captains or commanders (first officers) on flights—is insufficient for the country’s rapidly growing aviation industry.
Or do they mean they don't have any pilots at all with "sufficient experience"?
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This is the usual DGCA/Govt of India BS. They just say what the people want to hear.. "we will phase out expats and replace them with Indians". Such deadlines have been made in the past and they just keep extending them. In fact almost every airline in India is currently recruiting expats for various fleets with a 3 year contract. So an expat who joins in 2011 would have his contract till 2014.
With hundreds of aircraft on order I would not be surprised to see the number of expats go up in the future. I hope the command upgrades are done only if one deserves it and is capable rather than just to replace an expat. That is what the DGCA should be more worried about.
With hundreds of aircraft on order I would not be surprised to see the number of expats go up in the future. I hope the command upgrades are done only if one deserves it and is capable rather than just to replace an expat. That is what the DGCA should be more worried about.
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Wherever and whenever there is a local supply shortage, you make good with imports. If imports are more expensive then local products, their days become numbered. If they are cheaper, then that puts pressure on the local suppliers to cut their prices. That had always been the case and will probably always be so. Witness the car manufacturing industry, motocycle manufacturing and the rag trade. There are exceptions and reversals. Take for example Indian phone farms. Some of their business is moving back to Britain - because of costs!
Other reasons for 'kicking out the gringos' are cultural, some are organisational and others just purely racially motivated. This is particular story is probably about cost and organisational issues. But dealing with expats is a pain in the arse. I know 'cos I was one once. I'd like to think that I was an ambassador for my country but three of my colleagues (not all Brits) were complete and utter (expensive) pains!
Other reasons for 'kicking out the gringos' are cultural, some are organisational and others just purely racially motivated. This is particular story is probably about cost and organisational issues. But dealing with expats is a pain in the arse. I know 'cos I was one once. I'd like to think that I was an ambassador for my country but three of my colleagues (not all Brits) were complete and utter (expensive) pains!
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they have so many indian pilots ready top pay a fortune, why they need expats?
when they guy come with 50'000 $ for 300h? (pay to fly, P2F)
of course, airlines want their expats out so they don't have to pay locals anymore.
why we came to this point? because some idiots start to do it(to prostitute themselves), and P2F is going to be everywhere
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I told you!
when they guy come with 50'000 $ for 300h? (pay to fly, P2F)
of course, airlines want their expats out so they don't have to pay locals anymore.
why we came to this point? because some idiots start to do it(to prostitute themselves), and P2F is going to be everywhere
.I told you!
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"I dint want to bring this up but cant help it. 1 major accident and 1 major incident in the recent years in India. Who were the captains on both the occasions? Expats. If anything the expats come to India and reduce its population."
It is true.....because the majority of those are sitting on the right side....
"I dint want to bring this up but cant help it. 1 major accident and 1 major incident in the recent years in India. Who were the captains on both the occasions? Expats. If anything the expats come to India and reduce its population."
It is true.....because the majority of those are sitting on the right side....
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flyingsolo...
Do you know the word "democracy"?
I am free to say my opinion .
I was flying in your country for 5 years.....and I got many white hair, since....
Not a good experience, I can say.
And I want to assure you, that i am not willing to apologize , for what I wrote yesterday.
Do you know the word "democracy"?
I am free to say my opinion .
I was flying in your country for 5 years.....and I got many white hair, since....
Not a good experience, I can say.
And I want to assure you, that i am not willing to apologize , for what I wrote yesterday.
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Democracy
Yes, I know Democracy. But it does not give you the right to say just whatever you want.
Or you must also be agreeing with the JIHADIS and their utterances and must be defending them to your family and friends.
Anyway, I do not wish to get into a slanging match with you. You seem to be a man with a lot of strong convictions, right or wrong.
See captjns post also.
God look after your passengers and crew.
P.S. Maybe it is time for you to go home. I say this not because you are an expat, but only as a friendly advice. Why stay in a stressful situation if you have a choice.
Or you must also be agreeing with the JIHADIS and their utterances and must be defending them to your family and friends.
Anyway, I do not wish to get into a slanging match with you. You seem to be a man with a lot of strong convictions, right or wrong.
See captjns post also.
God look after your passengers and crew.
P.S. Maybe it is time for you to go home. I say this not because you are an expat, but only as a friendly advice. Why stay in a stressful situation if you have a choice.
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Good luck to the 20 year old.
What does concern me a lot with a a F/o straight out of flying school in the RHS of any high performance or heavy aircraft, is this.
Are they getting the unassisted landing practice, to get the aircraft down safely in the event of incapacitation in the LHS?
Do they have the over all air experience to intervene when the guy in the left hand seat is screwing up?
I think the answer to the above will be no, in a lot of cases.
Good luck to the 20 year old.
What does concern me a lot with a a F/o straight out of flying school in the RHS of any high performance or heavy aircraft, is this.
Are they getting the unassisted landing practice, to get the aircraft down safely in the event of incapacitation in the LHS?
Do they have the over all air experience to intervene when the guy in the left hand seat is screwing up?
I think the answer to the above will be no, in a lot of cases.
