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Old 14th Sep 2011, 03:58
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Any information on the best/cheapest place to do the A320 type rating?....cheers!
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 05:11
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Sorry guys. I just calculated my average and it is 6620 per month gross.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 06:24
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You are one of the fortunate few. Well done.

However, you are talking GROSS figures (before tax deductions) whereas we were talking NET figures (after tax deductions).

Difficult to compare two totally different statistics really.

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Old 14th Sep 2011, 10:22
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dear wizzkid,


6600 gross... ok how many sectors did you fly for that? 50+? 48?

all the time early morning and shifting to late evenings and vice versa?

12 hour days with only 1 liter of water and a sandwich able to walk under its own power? enjoy doing that for a few years more and bye bye!

also you end up close to 6000 net with that but remember, NOTHING!!! is payed! no social stuff, no insurance, no pension, no nothing!

and your swiss tax number, did you check that funny joke on last years bill? wonder when that stuff implodes on you... has been discussed before in a separate threat though...

and you have worked your ass of for that! plus many guys in wizz doing the same amount of flying and dreaming about getting out stuff close to 6000net due to a different contract or base.

im not saying wizzair is generally a bad choice, just dont tell me it is great to make money or work there long term. because the pay is and will remain way below everything acceptable for an a320 skipper and the working conditions are even worse than the salary. i mean, 1l of water and 1 sandwich for a 12 hour day is seriously a joke if it wouldnt be that sad
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 10:48
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Gross 6500

- say 12% Swiss tax rounded up to 800

- 1500-2000 for housing (Internet, phones, electricity, gas, management etc)
- 500 for food both in and out of the airplane
- 500 for travel related expenses, bus, taxi and what was called Midicar

Leaves you with 2700 to 3200 a month to cover costs at home should you have a home and family elsewhere.

- Costs at home

Left at the end of the month: 500.

This I think makes the comparison easier.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 10:55
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@wizzkid,


ok i payed less for the housing but more for the travel. in the end i do agree by 100%, more than 500 in your pocket wont happen that often after paying your own pension and insurances... great deal for an a320 skipper, isnt it?
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 15:22
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@wizzkid

Yes, and now imagine you are a First Officer...
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 16:03
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yes and now as a first officer you get deducted 1000 euro per month for your type rating. even better!
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 11:50
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Hey guys,

I recently got the invite to do the online test. I'm wondering where the current requirement is the highest for first officers, if i'm fortunate enough to pass the selection. It would be nice to know where I could potentially be based if I end up working for wizzair. Also, this may have been asked before, but what would generally be considered a good ballpark figure for FO's to calculate with when it comes to net takehome pay in an average base?

Thanks for the info.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 07:20
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@ dr.faust: you have an a320 rating or not?
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 13:27
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No rating sir. About 1500TT of which close to 1400 on the Q400. Just did the online test a few days ago. It was hard and ambiguous in a few questions, still expecting a result but really no Idea how I did. Hope it's positive.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 22:29
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Anybody knows if there is a chance to get an upgrade with 4500 TT
of which 1500 on B737 and 2500 on A320?
Thanks

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Old 18th Sep 2011, 23:36
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Yes, but they don't take direct upgrades anymore, at least 6 months RHS, then selection, then SIM + line training.
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 14:04
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not even sure, might be possible straight away. would definetely try to negotiate that... they are short on commanders. maybe by agreeing to a nice place like kiev or somewhere in dark romania can help increasing your chances!
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 14:12
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No, it won't.

You'll need to do a stint in the RHS. I can categorically, 100%, promise you that.
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 17:31
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Well that just makes Wizzair a non-starter for experienced pilots. Who in their right mind with reasonable hours or command time would accept the FO T&C?
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 17:52
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It's their trainset.

They clearly know what they're doing.....
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 21:44
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NR you are not correct. See the website. DEC is still possible.
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 03:21
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well i remember there were discussions about this rhs procedure but i recon if they really implement that, they wont get anywhere near the number of commanders they will need.
the only reason an expat is joining wizz is to get either airbus hours as an fo or airbus command hours straight away. there is no other reason for an expat to join this company, everything else is just waaaayyyy below market standard.
so if you take away the reason of dec, no one with experience will ever join there and since they bleed out of captains/experience, it would rather do them good to get some experienced personnel in.
only question is, do they realize that...
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 06:41
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Wizzaird,

My apologies. I stand corrected. You are in the know, i am not, and the situation has changed.The return of a DEC scheme for SFO's with Airbus ratings is, I'm sure, a very welcome and sensible step - especially after such a long hiatus.

What a shame it wasn't allowed a few months ago, as I'm certain that there are plenty of willing/able candidates out there.

Best regards from a slow paced life. I hope you are doing well :-)

When you can offer daily freelancing, I am available.
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