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Why do they even bother advertising for jobs etc ?
I really hate the fact that it took me forever to fill out the form by hand, scan it etc....all for nothing.
I wouldn't mind it if we got a fair chance, but this is absurd.
(But anyway, congrats to the guys that got the job. I only wished i knew the right people.)
I really hate the fact that it took me forever to fill out the form by hand, scan it etc....all for nothing.
I wouldn't mind it if we got a fair chance, but this is absurd.
(But anyway, congrats to the guys that got the job. I only wished i knew the right people.)
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I'm not sure what to make of this at all.... I can only imagine those who are 'in', if they even are, were previously in hold pools.
One has to wonder though, why they would go to the effort of advertising these posts at all? If it was truly a back hander setup, this wouldnt be necessary surely.
If the messages above are true, I'm disappointed. I'm desperate to return home, or at least get myself to a position on the air bridge home.
I've roughly 2500 hrs, and 3 commercial types. Jet and TP mix. Had the email, nothing further yet.
I'm still hopeful though.... Fingers crossed the quietness is simply due to the Christmas break!
One has to wonder though, why they would go to the effort of advertising these posts at all? If it was truly a back hander setup, this wouldnt be necessary surely.
If the messages above are true, I'm disappointed. I'm desperate to return home, or at least get myself to a position on the air bridge home.
I've roughly 2500 hrs, and 3 commercial types. Jet and TP mix. Had the email, nothing further yet.
I'm still hopeful though.... Fingers crossed the quietness is simply due to the Christmas break!
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Advertising vacant positions?
With regards to why do they advertise at all??.... i'm not sure if its anything like the real world in Aviation recruitment, but i am led to believe by a HR manager i know, that companies must go through the motions of advertising vacant positions, regardless of whether they already have people earmarked to fill the positions.... this way they can't be done for discrimiation!! Not sure of how true this is, but realastically, how much effort does it really take to post an advert, only to send out a generic email to everyone who has taken the time and effort to fill in the application form, then "file" these applications in the trash!!!
Its certainly not fair on those of you/us who meet the criteria, but just don't know the Chief Pilots, next door neighbours, childs music teacher, but i guess this will never change.
Good luck to all
Its certainly not fair on those of you/us who meet the criteria, but just don't know the Chief Pilots, next door neighbours, childs music teacher, but i guess this will never change.
Good luck to all
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EI Recruitment
To all of those out there wondering what the process is like at SHAMrock.
Been a little while since I went through the process, but if it helps. There were a couple of trips to DUB. First was a stupid set of IQ type tests. I believe they were called indices matrices, basically a what comes next type of affair. Matching patterns, and they start off pretty easy and get more difficult. They were ok if you took your time and looked for patterns. You can look them up online. Was trying to remember which site I used to practice, but if you get a call for interview I am sure I could find out.
The interview was on the same day. There was an HR bod and a management pilot. Usual why, how, tell me about questions. Tech questions were along the lines of what is VMCG/A, Mach tuck and coffin corner. Nothing new if you've been through the ACE book. I've heard of guys getting strange questions like How does a microwave work? TV work? Combustion engine?
Again pretty straight forward if you do your homework. They really are seeing if you will fit in to the Aer Lingus profile. Now that's a whole new thread!
If you get on well here it's into the A320 sim for the sim check.
For the sim assessment, you will have one of the old hand instructors. True gentlemen, everyone of them. They want you to pass. The brief is comprehensive and will give you all the information you need. If you are already on the bus, it will pretty much be a basic PC, if you have not flown airbus before, I might suggest having a very good go on a flight sim, and a read up on how the control laws on the airbus differ from what you're on at the moment. Even a quick hour in a sim at your own expense. That'll just give you a feel for the bus. No it's not cheating. If you're up against people that are type rated, its just increasing the odds in your favour.
If you get through the sim, you'll get an appointment for a medical. If you have a Class 1 you'll have no problems.
Hope that helps.
I don't know if they've started, finished recruitment. In all honesty I doubt if the dumb-asses in HR have a clue what's going on. Hassle the hell out them is my advice, in a nice way. Just so they know who you are. Not to the point of pishing them off. If you don't, and you are waiting for them to call you. It'll be a long old wait. Those with contacts will get a call, just because thats the way EI is. Be under no illusion, you will not be working for a legacy carrier. If you are with a decent jet carrier now, have a long think about making the leap. However, if you want to be home, then if you can deal with the time to command and all the other cr@p that comes with the job. go for it. Day to day, it's a great job. Just go in,do the job, have a laugh, get paid. Could be worse.
All the best.
Happy New Year.
Max
Been a little while since I went through the process, but if it helps. There were a couple of trips to DUB. First was a stupid set of IQ type tests. I believe they were called indices matrices, basically a what comes next type of affair. Matching patterns, and they start off pretty easy and get more difficult. They were ok if you took your time and looked for patterns. You can look them up online. Was trying to remember which site I used to practice, but if you get a call for interview I am sure I could find out.
The interview was on the same day. There was an HR bod and a management pilot. Usual why, how, tell me about questions. Tech questions were along the lines of what is VMCG/A, Mach tuck and coffin corner. Nothing new if you've been through the ACE book. I've heard of guys getting strange questions like How does a microwave work? TV work? Combustion engine?
Again pretty straight forward if you do your homework. They really are seeing if you will fit in to the Aer Lingus profile. Now that's a whole new thread!
If you get on well here it's into the A320 sim for the sim check.
For the sim assessment, you will have one of the old hand instructors. True gentlemen, everyone of them. They want you to pass. The brief is comprehensive and will give you all the information you need. If you are already on the bus, it will pretty much be a basic PC, if you have not flown airbus before, I might suggest having a very good go on a flight sim, and a read up on how the control laws on the airbus differ from what you're on at the moment. Even a quick hour in a sim at your own expense. That'll just give you a feel for the bus. No it's not cheating. If you're up against people that are type rated, its just increasing the odds in your favour.
If you get through the sim, you'll get an appointment for a medical. If you have a Class 1 you'll have no problems.
Hope that helps.
I don't know if they've started, finished recruitment. In all honesty I doubt if the dumb-asses in HR have a clue what's going on. Hassle the hell out them is my advice, in a nice way. Just so they know who you are. Not to the point of pishing them off. If you don't, and you are waiting for them to call you. It'll be a long old wait. Those with contacts will get a call, just because thats the way EI is. Be under no illusion, you will not be working for a legacy carrier. If you are with a decent jet carrier now, have a long think about making the leap. However, if you want to be home, then if you can deal with the time to command and all the other cr@p that comes with the job. go for it. Day to day, it's a great job. Just go in,do the job, have a laugh, get paid. Could be worse.
All the best.
Happy New Year.
Max
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Does anybody know how is going the recruitment process at tis company?.
I applied for FO last december.
Could you tell me how is the live at Aer Lingus?, roaster?, sallary?, working conditions? ....
I applied for FO last december.
Could you tell me how is the live at Aer Lingus?, roaster?, sallary?, working conditions? ....
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i'm still waiting, rang hr last week, they said my app hadnt gone yet to board yet due to disruption of snow over xmas period...which i find very hard to believe....dealings with hr from the start have been some what mystifying / baffling / confusing to say the least...
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I believe only 8 people have started so far. 5 appear to be cadet entry, 2 are ex military, and one type rated. There are at least 42 and perhaps 50 if not more jobs to be filled yet as far as I am aware. Aer Lingus have only one very busy A320 simulator at it's disposal. I believe the plan is to start courses every three weeks between now and the forseeable with 4 on each course. Interviews are ongoing and I understand they are covering all experience levels from cadet entry to airline experienced. I've heard pilots from various airlines, Ryanair, Cityjet, Aer Arann and some rated Easyjet people are currently going through selection along with low houred people aswell. It seems to only be the start of the process so I would be a little patient yet.
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Lord Lardy,
Many thanks for taking the time to share your comments. I had all but written off EI on this occasion...
If you read back through this thread you'll realise why. Plenty of rumours indicating the doors are as good as shut already.
I'll wait till the Summer before I give up completely ;-)
Many thanks for taking the time to share your comments. I had all but written off EI on this occasion...
If you read back through this thread you'll realise why. Plenty of rumours indicating the doors are as good as shut already.
I'll wait till the Summer before I give up completely ;-)
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Has anyone who has completed all 3 stages of the process in the last few weeks heard anything?
There must be quite a backlog of candidates through the process at this stage, yet the assessments continue full steam ahead.
I've heard of people receiving letters (negative) in the post after the interview stage only but I've yet to hear of anyone who has been through the 3 stages receive a thanks but no thanks letter or good news. (Apart from the 8 guys who've already started on 2 courses).
Must be patient...
There must be quite a backlog of candidates through the process at this stage, yet the assessments continue full steam ahead.
I've heard of people receiving letters (negative) in the post after the interview stage only but I've yet to hear of anyone who has been through the 3 stages receive a thanks but no thanks letter or good news. (Apart from the 8 guys who've already started on 2 courses).
Must be patient...
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Received the following reply today after emailing HR requesting any updates:
Dear SW1,
We are confirming receipt of your inquiry as to the status of your application.
At this time, we are currently undertaking the initial screening process.
Due to the large volume of applications received, this may take some time so we thank you in advance for your patience.
Should you meet the necessary criteria we will be in contact in due course.
Best Regards,
HR Team
We are confirming receipt of your inquiry as to the status of your application.
At this time, we are currently undertaking the initial screening process.
Due to the large volume of applications received, this may take some time so we thank you in advance for your patience.
Should you meet the necessary criteria we will be in contact in due course.
Best Regards,
HR Team
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I'd applied back in December and hadn't heard anything since the standard "thanks for your application - we'll be in touch" email, then yesterday I checked my email to find this :-
It's pretty much identical to the one they previously sent back in December, but still it seems like there is still a small glimmer of hope that my application has done something to trigger another email response, and it hasn't been filed in the recycle bin just yet.
Many thanks for your application form for the position of First Officer with Aer Lingus. The closing date for receipt of applications was 12.00 on Friday 10th December 2010 and we would like to confirm receipt of your application.
We are in the process of screening all applications and should you meet our criteria we may be back in contact with you. Due to the high volume of applications, this may take some time so we would like to thank you in advance for your patience.
We are in the process of screening all applications and should you meet our criteria we may be back in contact with you. Due to the high volume of applications, this may take some time so we would like to thank you in advance for your patience.