Split Duty is an Extension!
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my understanding is that split duty isn't included currently in sub part Q and is down to the NAA. In the UK we've used split duty for many years but no-where to the extent your example indicates. Can you state what your Ops manual says exactly and perhaps who your NAA is.....
my understanding is that split duty isn't included currently in sub part Q and is down to the NAA. In the UK we've used split duty for many years but no-where to the extent your example indicates. Can you state what your Ops manual says exactly and perhaps who your NAA is.....
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6. Extended FDP (split duty)
6.1 The Authority may grant approval to an operation based on an extended FDP including a break, subject to the provisions of Article 8.
6.2 Each operator will have to demonstrate to the Authority, using operational experience and taking into account other relevant factors, such as current scientific knowledge, that its request for an extended FDP produces an equivalent level of safety.
As long as your National authority approves it I guess airlines will continue to "experiment" and "adjust" limitations to suit their purpose.
6.1 The Authority may grant approval to an operation based on an extended FDP including a break, subject to the provisions of Article 8.
6.2 Each operator will have to demonstrate to the Authority, using operational experience and taking into account other relevant factors, such as current scientific knowledge, that its request for an extended FDP produces an equivalent level of safety.
As long as your National authority approves it I guess airlines will continue to "experiment" and "adjust" limitations to suit their purpose.
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6.2 Quotes "an extended FDP".
This serves to verify that the period, including the break, is an extended, and continuous, FDP thru until the final 'on blocks' of the period, one does not stop and start the FDP by reverting to a DP during the break nor is there any wording that a break reduces an FDP, a break extends an FDP!
This serves to verify that the period, including the break, is an extended, and continuous, FDP thru until the final 'on blocks' of the period, one does not stop and start the FDP by reverting to a DP during the break nor is there any wording that a break reduces an FDP, a break extends an FDP!
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Opinion please.
After years of calculating FDP a certain way, in several different companies employ, I was suddenly given a completely new way of working
Is this a legal trip ?
ETD AAAA 1200Z ETA BBBB 1730Z FERRY
ETD BBBB 2200Z ETA AAAA 0330Z
Local = Z+4
After years of calculating FDP a certain way, in several different companies employ, I was suddenly given a completely new way of working
Is this a legal trip ?
ETD AAAA 1200Z ETA BBBB 1730Z FERRY
ETD BBBB 2200Z ETA AAAA 0330Z
Local = Z+4
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No it's not.
In our company preflight is 1hr before ETD, and post flight 30 min after ETA. Could be different, refer to your OM part A.
Given 3 hours of split duty (1800z-2100z, considering pre and post flight, supposing an adequate crew rest facility is available) you have 1,5 hrs of extension (half the split duty).
You begin FDP at 1100z, 1500 lt, that gives you with two sectors 12 hrs of duty, plus 1,5 of extension= 13,5 hrs.
You should be on blocks at midnight to be FTL compliant.
Cheers!
In our company preflight is 1hr before ETD, and post flight 30 min after ETA. Could be different, refer to your OM part A.
Given 3 hours of split duty (1800z-2100z, considering pre and post flight, supposing an adequate crew rest facility is available) you have 1,5 hrs of extension (half the split duty).
You begin FDP at 1100z, 1500 lt, that gives you with two sectors 12 hrs of duty, plus 1,5 of extension= 13,5 hrs.
You should be on blocks at midnight to be FTL compliant.
Cheers!