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19th July 2013 | 11:19

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fly_boy320

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From: England

Ellan, you're right, it won't only be Boeing guys onto the B744.

Entry requirements normally 3000hrs Airbus/Boeing, typically people join with 4000+.

Wide-body not essential.

19th July 2013 | 11:59

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flyer19832007

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I take it for those with jet time, but no boeing/airbus experience it's a complete no go?

Shame really, the Embraers are advanced pieces of kit!

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19th July 2013 | 13:36

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Cyber Bob

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From: Nirvana

fly_boy 320 is correct in terms of numbers and timescales

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19th July 2013 | 13:42

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Iver

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From: Europe

CB - is it still difficult for an internal fleet transfer at Virgin? If, for example, a senior FO on the A340 wanted to bid over to the Beach Fleet, would that not be possible these days?

19th July 2013 | 14:09

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Cyber Bob

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From: Nirvana

It would depend on a whole host of factors I guess (Business need, operational numbers/headcount etc), so not as simple as just bidding or placing a transfer request

19th July 2013 | 17:13

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Blinkz

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Would the airbus pilots still be dual rated 330/340? It's going to be a fair time until the 340s are gone and I would have thought they'd need a little slack in numbers on the 340 to do training onto the 787?

How many are left in the pool? Last I heard it was just under 20?

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29th July 2013 | 14:27

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A38lephant

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From: Middle England

Hi flyboy 320 and cyber bob,

Where do you get your info on recruitment from?

Thanks

5th August 2013 | 15:30

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HotBus

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Take home salary

Whilst on the subject, could anyone in the know give an idea of the monthly take home pay for a new joiner? (After tax and pension, including average allowances.)

8th August 2013 | 09:44

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Busbar

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From: Not where I want to be!

It may be worth keeping an eye open tomorrow on the Virgin careers website!

;-)

8th August 2013 | 10:03

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chocolateracer

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From: Manchester

One option to increase your seniority in Virgin would be to join BA now....then in a few years time when the Virgin pilots slot in underneath you you'll have 700 virgin pilot behind you...

9th August 2013 | 08:48

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StopStart

Champagne anyone...?

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From: EGDL

B747 and A340 rated FOs looking for a change should perhaps cast their eyes over the Virgin careers website today...

9th August 2013 | 08:51

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EllanVannin

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Pants. Was rather hoping it would be open to A320 rated pilots again......

9th August 2013 | 09:06

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billybuds

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From: Anywhere

Likewise......

9th August 2013 | 10:32

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root

Joined: Jul 2011

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From: Unsettled

Ah damn shame it's only for type-rated guys. Better luck next time.

9th August 2013 | 10:53

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spudgunjon

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From: The Shire

Anyone in the know, know if there are any plans for NTR recruitment this year? Been waiting for this one for a while

9th August 2013 | 18:17

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SpamCanDriver

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From: Oxford

Wouldn't say I'm in the know

But a have a fair few friends there and they say they will be after boeing guys next year for the 787. With probably a preference for 777 guys

10th August 2013 | 10:12

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Busbar

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From: Not where I want to be!

They will be looking for Airbus Pilots with A320 experience or ex-military service personnel in about 2 months from now.

10th August 2013 | 12:19

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pma 32dd

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From: Wibble, nr Wibble

Or maybe a tactic to make sifting CVs easier vs course dates? How many 747 rated guys fit those requirements and would be interested?

10th August 2013 | 15:54

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StopStart

Champagne anyone...?

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From: EGDL

There are plenty of 747 operators that'll have FOs that'll want to move on. Try the freight operators for starters....

10th August 2013 | 16:24

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Artie Fufkin

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From: Polymer Records

Virgin have always asked simply for Boeing/ Airbus time, but are now asking for type specific. BA has moved in a similar direction over the last few years.

Is it just me sensing a worrying move towards a further narrowing of career progression? It's become an established wisdom that the traditional jump from TP to jet is far more difficult than it was, now it appears specific type ratings are becoming more important than just generic jet time.