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Time In Type

Old 16th July 2010 | 22:39
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Time In Type

All the Asian airlines have been advertising daily for the last several years for pilots in everything from ERJs to classic 747s, but they all demand time in type. How much longer are they going to able to fill their quotas without doing any training? Does anyone have any reliable data on the number of experienced, unemployed pilots on the market? Not sure about Europe, but on the west side of the pond several airlines are starting to hire off the street, which implies that all the furloughees have been recalled. Even the P2F programs can't fill all that demand, because those programs are limited to a few of the more common aircraft types. Same situation in the bizjet market.
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Old 17th July 2010 | 00:30
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It's not only the problem that they selfishly safe training costs, they also choose the wrong type of pilots. Thinking that a pilot with the right experience is a better pilot is complete nonsense. Western airlines choose a pilot for his/her abilities, not for his type rating. You can always train a guy, but you can't change him!

It has always puzzled me how they select their pilots. First question is "how many hours?" not "who is this guy?". Leading to - isolated - cases of pilots having cheated and not so isolated cases where the guy has the experience, but sucks on a personal level.

I think those airline will never learn. It's basically a "bazar thinking": Need a plumber? Get a plumber! - Need a camel driver? Get one! Says a lot about the management.

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Old 17th July 2010 | 03:02
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I know American Airlines still has almost 2,000 pilots on furlough. Not sure how many are unemployed.

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Old 18th July 2010 | 03:11
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Western airlines choose a pilot for his/her abilities, not for his type rating
Thats a load of rubbish. Western airlines choose a pilot by the size of their wallets. Pay for a cadetship and then a type rating. Flown with many ordinary pilots who payed their way to a job.
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Old 18th July 2010 | 12:45
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Yeah well said mate. Thats the truth, like it or not.
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Old 18th July 2010 | 17:17
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"American Airlines still has almost 2,000 pilots on furlough. Not sure how many are unemployed."
Really? . . . .They must be suffering from an acute case of xenophobia for not taking up jet jobs in asia, especially in China, PRC.
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