Oxygene Airways
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Does anyone believe that this will happen, and that if it does, that it will survive?
AF killed off Air Inter (no loss there!), Air Littoral, UTA, Air Minerve, and no doubt others I can't think of right now. Fair competition is alive and well.
AF killed off Air Inter (no loss there!), Air Littoral, UTA, Air Minerve, and no doubt others I can't think of right now. Fair competition is alive and well.
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So how do you qualify Monarch, Air Transat, Tower Air, Martinair, etc to name a few...
AF killed off Air Inter (no loss there!), Air Littoral, UTA, Air Minerve, and no doubt others I can't think of right now.
However Airlib is a different story...
Now I had it my mind that when I joined Fred Laker's excellent airline at the end of 1978 we were doing JFK and LAX from LGW at "$99 one way fares".
This was not a charter operation but a schedule operation. In the summer season, we were doing 3 JFKs, 3 LAXs, and 2 MIAs every day. Each DC-10 was in 345Y configuration and our load factors were very high.
The likes of Lord King etc didn't like it so we got put out of business.
O2 out of ORY claiming to be the first Transatlantic low cost long haul operator suggests to me that they have not done their sums correctly and are being unbelievably ambitious.
I simply do not believe that anyone can make the FR/EZ model work on long haul operations. It is simply not possible. The operating costs are too high.
Why do you think that MOL has not been doing this for years?
This was not a charter operation but a schedule operation. In the summer season, we were doing 3 JFKs, 3 LAXs, and 2 MIAs every day. Each DC-10 was in 345Y configuration and our load factors were very high.
The likes of Lord King etc didn't like it so we got put out of business.
O2 out of ORY claiming to be the first Transatlantic low cost long haul operator suggests to me that they have not done their sums correctly and are being unbelievably ambitious.
I simply do not believe that anyone can make the FR/EZ model work on long haul operations. It is simply not possible. The operating costs are too high.
Why do you think that MOL has not been doing this for years?
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BTW, long haul, DKR, BMK out ot ORY, you can do that on a 757 or even 737. Not to compare w Air Asia X or so...
There is Air Safari or so from Bissau trying to put up a service to FOR on a 727! I think of those West African ops rather as adventure than serious competition to established carriers.
There is Air Safari or so from Bissau trying to put up a service to FOR on a 727! I think of those West African ops rather as adventure than serious competition to established carriers.
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Quo ivisti et quo vadis Oxygéne Afrique?
Late spring/early summer Oxygéne Afrique leased two B763s from ILFC namely G-CDPT AND G-CEFG(MSN 29388 and 26264), which were ex-Globespan. The aircraft were painted as may be seen at the following URL and sat and sat in Miami for months waiting to be ferried to France.
http://www.oxygene-airways.com/
Now these same B763s have been leased to other airlines, one to Luzair, MSN 26264, and ferried to LIS in September 2010, and the other, MSN 29388 to Transaero Airlines and ferried to DME on 28 August 2010.
Seems someone has put the boot in and made sure that Oxygéne Afrique would never operate.....anyone have any more information?
Late spring/early summer Oxygéne Afrique leased two B763s from ILFC namely G-CDPT AND G-CEFG(MSN 29388 and 26264), which were ex-Globespan. The aircraft were painted as may be seen at the following URL and sat and sat in Miami for months waiting to be ferried to France.
http://www.oxygene-airways.com/
Now these same B763s have been leased to other airlines, one to Luzair, MSN 26264, and ferried to LIS in September 2010, and the other, MSN 29388 to Transaero Airlines and ferried to DME on 28 August 2010.
Seems someone has put the boot in and made sure that Oxygéne Afrique would never operate.....anyone have any more information?
