Turkish Airlines hiring First Officers
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Thanks for all the helpful information. I have been contacted twice by WASINC recruiting for a B737 F/O Position with Turkish Air. I have over 3100+ hours and just the B737 type rating. I was told for now they want people with time and type but, due to the hectic and crazy interviews they have been having soon they may just want quailty time.
What do you suggest I do, should I push to get at least 300 hour in type and apply or just pursue it until they say something to me?
Thanks for all the helpful information. I have been contacted twice by WASINC recruiting for a B737 F/O Position with Turkish Air. I have over 3100+ hours and just the B737 type rating. I was told for now they want people with time and type but, due to the hectic and crazy interviews they have been having soon they may just want quailty time.
What do you suggest I do, should I push to get at least 300 hour in type and apply or just pursue it until they say something to me?
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Hmmm, not sure on that one. From what I've gathered of the selection process so far, they are very adamant on the minimum requirements set at the time. I’ve seen captains and first officers alike from all over the world whom have reached the document check (stage 1) and been sent home the next day; all because they don’t have the time or a degree for example (although that one has been scrapped), or perhaps they haven’t flown for one day more than the maximum 12 months allowable (seriously!!!). So please check the current minimum requirements (I must admit I am not too familiar) and check to see whether they:
1. require you to have a current type rating and have flown the aircraft (live) within the last XX months;
2. have a minimum of XX hours flying the aircraft.
I’m pretty sure that even at this stage (and believe me they are desperate for pilots) that they will not drop one hour nor one day below their requirements. If you have the rating then I would only suggest getting some more time (if possible) on type if that’s what you need. Although the selection process may seem manic, believe me it is an “organised chaos”; they do actually know what they’re doing, but they may not always keep you in the loop. It’s only like this at first, but I would mention that once you are on the line I’ve heard of no complaints and everything is pretty much ‘smooth sailing’, so it’s worth it in the end. I hope this is of some use and good luck to you!
Safe flying,
FAUST
1. require you to have a current type rating and have flown the aircraft (live) within the last XX months;
2. have a minimum of XX hours flying the aircraft.
I’m pretty sure that even at this stage (and believe me they are desperate for pilots) that they will not drop one hour nor one day below their requirements. If you have the rating then I would only suggest getting some more time (if possible) on type if that’s what you need. Although the selection process may seem manic, believe me it is an “organised chaos”; they do actually know what they’re doing, but they may not always keep you in the loop. It’s only like this at first, but I would mention that once you are on the line I’ve heard of no complaints and everything is pretty much ‘smooth sailing’, so it’s worth it in the end. I hope this is of some use and good luck to you!
Safe flying,
FAUST
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Thanx i appreciate it!
Am going to hold off on pursuing a job with them...things are slowly turning around in the US. Although I always wanted to fly in Europe and live abroad...best of luck and keep in touch...let me know how things are working out for you over there!
safe flying!
Am going to hold off on pursuing a job with them...things are slowly turning around in the US. Although I always wanted to fly in Europe and live abroad...best of luck and keep in touch...let me know how things are working out for you over there!
safe flying!
, best talk to a few people who have worked for Turkish companies about that 
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Lots of info here about 737 Fo positions.. anyone with any info regarding A320 interview and sim ride?
Can anyone confirm pay EUR 3800, is this basic or total and is the roster really 5/2/6/1?
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Thanks
Can anyone confirm pay EUR 3800, is this basic or total and is the roster really 5/2/6/1?
PM if prefere
Thanks
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R20c I hope this helps you,
Below is an overview of the terms and conditions now offered by Turkish Airlines:
- 3 year contract duration
- Base of Operations, Istanbul, Turkey
- **Accommodation provided for the first 45 days on contract (including local transportation)
- ***TL8, 785.82monthly basic salary
- ***Quarterly bonus of TL5, 039(payable in March / July / September / December)
- Additional seniority payment of TL971 per month (dependant on educational qualification)
- Overtime rate of TL110.94per hour for every hour flown in excess of 70 block hours per month
- Daily travel allowance whilst on duty (specific to locations flown)
- 20 days annual leave per year on assignment
Accommodation and Local Transportation is the responsibility of the First Officer when on assignment with Turkish Airlines, however for the first 45 days of the assignment Turkish Airlines will provide the First Officer with Hotel and Local Transportation
First Officers will be paid a training salary during line training and paperwork approval equivalent to TL3, 115.27 + TL971.00 seniority payment (as above) + Quarterly bonus TL2, 327.00, therefore a monthly average of TL4, 861.93
The Sim at the bus is basically in LTAC, ILS raw data, LVP , circling n-1 and so on.
No idea of the roster, would appreciate if someone helps.
Cheers
Below is an overview of the terms and conditions now offered by Turkish Airlines:
- 3 year contract duration
- Base of Operations, Istanbul, Turkey
- **Accommodation provided for the first 45 days on contract (including local transportation)
- ***TL8, 785.82monthly basic salary
- ***Quarterly bonus of TL5, 039(payable in March / July / September / December)
- Additional seniority payment of TL971 per month (dependant on educational qualification)
- Overtime rate of TL110.94per hour for every hour flown in excess of 70 block hours per month
- Daily travel allowance whilst on duty (specific to locations flown)
- 20 days annual leave per year on assignment
Accommodation and Local Transportation is the responsibility of the First Officer when on assignment with Turkish Airlines, however for the first 45 days of the assignment Turkish Airlines will provide the First Officer with Hotel and Local Transportation
First Officers will be paid a training salary during line training and paperwork approval equivalent to TL3, 115.27 + TL971.00 seniority payment (as above) + Quarterly bonus TL2, 327.00, therefore a monthly average of TL4, 861.93
The Sim at the bus is basically in LTAC, ILS raw data, LVP , circling n-1 and so on.
No idea of the roster, would appreciate if someone helps.
Cheers
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I see no point in avoiding the agencies, that will only save money to Turkish Airlines but create problems from you that will not get any help in burocracy...and more over, i think HR is busy cannot deal with u, so go trough agency, anyways the contract of work is with THY directly after u pass.
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THY-HR
It may look crowded and unorganised when you sit there and wait in the 4th Floor but at the end all comes together and works out nice. I applied thru HR directly and I had regular contact then.
I was with Agent´s the last 14 Years in various companies, the only aid you got was that they have theire commission as quick as possible with the least effort... for all other things you where batteling on your own. So whenever possible then go direct.
Some Airlines use only Agents to select ExPat Pilots, then you have no choice.
Fly safe and land Happy
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I was with Agent´s the last 14 Years in various companies, the only aid you got was that they have theire commission as quick as possible with the least effort... for all other things you where batteling on your own. So whenever possible then go direct.
Some Airlines use only Agents to select ExPat Pilots, then you have no choice.
Fly safe and land Happy
NG
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THY is kicking out expats
In the last month THY has started to inform expats that their contracts won't be extended. Both copilots and captains short- and long haul alike. That goes by an unsigned email. When asking questions, the chief pilot, schedulers or expat department: nobody gives answers. All pointing at each other and in the end at the company?
As expat you are a number and you are used as such to fill the holes they cannot cover with a Turk.They keep separate seniority lists so any expat is never up for promotion. They read the contracts and rules and regulations as they wish. When it is not to their liking the answer is: it is translated wrong. In the office you will not find a proper English speaking person. If they break their own scheduling rules they force you to follow orders by threatening that they will not pay your salary. Turks don't dare to speak up, too afraid to loose their job. Short haul monthly schedules are gruelling. As a captain, the local cockpit and cabin crews are relaxed to fly with, but the company culture of hierarchy, ego's, arrogance and "expat phobia" are making this airline very unreliable and unpleasant to work for!
As expat you are a number and you are used as such to fill the holes they cannot cover with a Turk.They keep separate seniority lists so any expat is never up for promotion. They read the contracts and rules and regulations as they wish. When it is not to their liking the answer is: it is translated wrong. In the office you will not find a proper English speaking person. If they break their own scheduling rules they force you to follow orders by threatening that they will not pay your salary. Turks don't dare to speak up, too afraid to loose their job. Short haul monthly schedules are gruelling. As a captain, the local cockpit and cabin crews are relaxed to fly with, but the company culture of hierarchy, ego's, arrogance and "expat phobia" are making this airline very unreliable and unpleasant to work for!
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Yes and the cancellation of VISA-Work permitt on departure into your off days helps to fuel that fire. The house is burning and noboday knows how to fight the fire.
Fly safe and land happy
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Fly safe and land happy
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ALL of them!
the local cockpit and cabin crews are relaxed to fly with, but the company culture of hierarchy, ego's, arrogance and "expat phobia" are making this airline very unreliable and unpleasant to work for!
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Yes and the cancellation of VISA-Work permitt on departure into your off days helps to fuel that fire. The house is burning and noboday knows how to fight the fire.
If the permits expire you have to go to the central police sation and apply for another one, nothing to do with THY
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VISA
There where several cases recently where Pilots did either did not get the Visa renewed, or cancelled, as they had not used the Visa for more then 30 days on reasons beyond theire control.
For example, one Chap had his Visa in the renwal process, Central Police Station visit was done and he went home for time off. After a while he got a message from THY his Visa is ready and can be picked up. After he went back to obtain it they told him that it expired again because it was more then 30 days "idle". Another Chap did not get the renewal because between issuance of the Workpermitt and the actual starting date was the 90 days notice period from the previous employer. So he has been told to go home and Stby there (without pay) and wait until the issue is solved. Took in a case of another Guy from earlier this year about 6 Month.
THY putt´s the blame onto the Government, the Office people just take it for granted and take it from the Authority as it comes. There is where you are all of a sudden on your own when it comes to support from them.
None of those tried to turn the Visa or Work Permitt on or off like the leave, they tried to stay there despite the devaluation of the currency and the lesser travel benefits after one year. Some of them havent seen the family for more then 4 days a month, especially A320 / B737 Pilots.
Unfortunatly the concerns are there and that now most of the F/O´s did not got the extensions as earlier indicated shows that the warnings where meant well and to have a backup job within short time was a wise step.
Also some Captains got either the letter of ending the service or just no extensions with the tool of work permitt. That the moral shiftet downwards is just a natural consequence and the good spirit from later 2010 did not survive, sadly.
For example, one Chap had his Visa in the renwal process, Central Police Station visit was done and he went home for time off. After a while he got a message from THY his Visa is ready and can be picked up. After he went back to obtain it they told him that it expired again because it was more then 30 days "idle". Another Chap did not get the renewal because between issuance of the Workpermitt and the actual starting date was the 90 days notice period from the previous employer. So he has been told to go home and Stby there (without pay) and wait until the issue is solved. Took in a case of another Guy from earlier this year about 6 Month.
THY putt´s the blame onto the Government, the Office people just take it for granted and take it from the Authority as it comes. There is where you are all of a sudden on your own when it comes to support from them.
None of those tried to turn the Visa or Work Permitt on or off like the leave, they tried to stay there despite the devaluation of the currency and the lesser travel benefits after one year. Some of them havent seen the family for more then 4 days a month, especially A320 / B737 Pilots.
Unfortunatly the concerns are there and that now most of the F/O´s did not got the extensions as earlier indicated shows that the warnings where meant well and to have a backup job within short time was a wise step.
Also some Captains got either the letter of ending the service or just no extensions with the tool of work permitt. That the moral shiftet downwards is just a natural consequence and the good spirit from later 2010 did not survive, sadly.