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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 18:22
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Actually Flintstone does very well and there's absolutely no talk of strike action. Especially from the cabin attendants. Why would they strike?
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 18:43
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From the BA cabin crew and BASSA thread:

I would be quite happy to go on strike and for BA to fire me. Go to tribunial and then sue them.
Good luck red!
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 18:44
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So X-Ray and Slim. As you know so much about me and my company perhaps you'd care to enlighten me as to when and why my cabin crew are striking and why my festive season will be so quiet? Rather interested to know what your tax money and I have to do with each other.

Let's have it.
 
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Hey Barney Rubble, check the thread on the CC forum: seems like feelings are running a tad high!

World's favourite airline? Tell us about your losses: the huge hole in your in pension fund and the fact that Ryanair has enough cash in the bank to buy the whole sorry outfit.

Bit of humility wouldn't be amiss.

Y'all ain't that good anymore!

Wanna buy a turkey? You will need it, as chances are you, and lots of your colleagues will be home for Xmas.

Or do you prefer cous cous?
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 18:54
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All very ummmmm, interesting Slim but answer my questions would you?
 
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I refer the Honourable Barney Rubble to the CC forum.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:02
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All very interesting Slim but what does that have to do with me?
 
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Well if you work BA I would have thought it could have a fundamental effect on you.

If the CC go on strike, how do plan to operate the airplanes?

If the strike escalates how do you plan to fill the planes / cater them / fuel them etc?
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:11
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He said, she said etc ad infinitum.

Does anyone in Ryanair give a flying **** how their oppo numbers in BA work, or vice versa ? if so why exactly? Think in both cases there are enough unresolved internal issues to be @rsed how the other half lives.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:23
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Did I say I work for BA?
 
Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:25
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Actually one does.

At one point in the not so dim and distant past BA set the standard by which all others were judged.

Now the company is a run of the mill, going down the Sabena road carrier.

If BA goes to the wall the rest of us are in deep doodoo: the pax will migrate, and won't come back.

They won't go to VS as they don't have the capacity, nor bmi: they will jump to AF, KLM, AA, UA, DL, LH and be lost.

It will affect not just BA but LHR and LGW: it will destroy the credibility of this country as an aviation nation.

Ryanair has its place in the market as a loco: a bus with wings. BA has its place in the market as a full service, high quality carrier.

There is a balance to be realised between the existing cost base and the service, as there is with rewarding and motivating the staff. If the staff productivity can be increased then it should be: why pay people to swan around and revel in cous cous and salmon?
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:39
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Flinty,

Please allow the mistaken BA myth to continue.

Do not encourage any of these "Ryan's" into our world. I actually need to get paid.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 19:53
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Slim, that cous-cous is really stuck in your throat isn't it? Shame, it was lovely.

What you've done here is make a bit of an tw@t of yourself really, haven't you? X-Ray made the rather poor assumption that I work for BA and you followed it without checking. You made smartarse comments, ignored my hints because you were target fixated and have really confirmed your own bias that airlines, RYR and buying your way in is the only way to go.

Nicely done

BN. They'll never get in. 'SSTR' on a CV is generally a one-way ticket to the bin.
 
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Lemme guess.

Netjets.

20,000 pilot working days down this year.

Glass houses. Stones.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 20:01
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I suspect Flintstone works for a private operator, probably Netjets.

I have friends there that have had to take a year on year off on 60% salary deal for the next four years, that puts a year contract extension with a payfreeze into perspective.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 20:02
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Strike Two.

Give it up now Slim. If you make this many guesses in your day job I really wouldn't want to be anywhere near you. A wise man once told me "The most dangerous thing in aviation is an untested assumption". He'd have loved you.




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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 21:25
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Barney, don't give a toss. When you go looking for a job with your TR, don't call me :-)
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 21:33
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I'm sure Flinty will be 'destroyed' by your most robust stance.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 21:52
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Actually Big Number, DILLIGAF.

Anyone who rates their job on the quality of the food is either a complete banker or not worth the bandwidth :-)
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 22:02
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Last time I checked Slim, March wasn't in the summer holidays, let alone summer! - Point well made!
As for 'certain colleagues' getting Aug and Sept off, how are the base TRE's and Cpts doing these days. Either that or they were BRK guys who don't get paid anyway!

My Final Point
We are better paid, have better rosters, better staff travel, a pension scheme,medicals paid for, car park paid for, uniform paid for etc etc
As for the rosters, no one will ever say that is not the best in the industry because it almost certainly is. Your added extras are about to head straight out the window, and staff travel - if you are referring to the free jump seat policy that allows you to go anywhere on the network (when traveling on company related business), your right, it is by far the best - (unless you book the ticket on the Ryanair website as a normal PAX and half the time it works out cheaper anyway!).

I think that finishing off on a point like you did above, any other company worth its soul pays for uniform and car parking and all those wonderful things, actually, No they don't. Ryanair does not pay for all its worker to have those privileges. Every single BRK pilot who is doing the same job as you, flying the same planes, for the same company have 25 Euro taken out of their pay for parking, plus 30 Euro for the privilege of being paid. But again, they are nothing to do with Ryanair and nothing to do with you. They are not you colleagues, they are contractors who have no rights!
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