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for all those now feigning threats and intimidation on pprune,let's see the pm etc.if that is the best that the management stooges can come up with here and now,then they know they have lost the "**** you jack,i'm alright" argument !pathetic, a master plan by the union busting ryanair management to make their troops on the line look like they have been abused by those nasty balpa riff-raff.
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To answer the question, I haven't received any threatening PM's. I have only had a PM as a reply to a message from Grim Repa, for the record it was well written and informative.
I did however receive a copy of the PM sent to the EMA based number 1. It's getting ridiculous now. If it really is from BALPA then how can they still claim that "threats from management should not be tolerated"? You've reduced yourselves to the same level of those idiots in the whitehouse.
Has this whole campaign blinded you? You're becoming the same as them.
Everyone needs to grow up, stop trying to intimidate people. It's pathetic.
Great post from Day_Dreamer, thanks for that. Just to warn you, you'll be branded management now.
Day_Dreamer's final comment is worth a repeat:
I did however receive a copy of the PM sent to the EMA based number 1. It's getting ridiculous now. If it really is from BALPA then how can they still claim that "threats from management should not be tolerated"? You've reduced yourselves to the same level of those idiots in the whitehouse.
Has this whole campaign blinded you? You're becoming the same as them.
Everyone needs to grow up, stop trying to intimidate people. It's pathetic.
Great post from Day_Dreamer, thanks for that. Just to warn you, you'll be branded management now.
Day_Dreamer's final comment is worth a repeat:
if BALPA recognition costs 1 job let alone a complete base the price is too high
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so there is no evidence of alleged intimidation.
should however any such evidence become apparent.let us be under no doubt that intimidation,bullying and terror are the hallmarks of ryanairs union busting management and not balpa/pilots.
should however any such evidence become apparent.let us be under no doubt that intimidation,bullying and terror are the hallmarks of ryanairs union busting management and not balpa/pilots.
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management tool,intimidation,bullying and terror.
all due respect slim,but we could all insinuate sorts of things on here but without any basis or evidence.they remain just insinuations.
it is very interesting to note though that no pilots ever comes on here to defend ryanairs union busting management against allegations of bullying,intimidation,abuse and threatening behaviour.posibly it is because the management are so ariculate in providing daily written,but cowardly unsigned memos and email containing such proof of the above mentioned behaviour.
it is very interesting to note though that no pilots ever comes on here to defend ryanairs union busting management against allegations of bullying,intimidation,abuse and threatening behaviour.posibly it is because the management are so ariculate in providing daily written,but cowardly unsigned memos and email containing such proof of the above mentioned behaviour.
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Well Grim
the originator of the PM, DawnWarne may wish to note this extract:
the originator of the PM, DawnWarne may wish to note this extract:
Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 creates offences regarding improper use of public electronic communications network, either to send by means of network a message/other matter which is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character or causes any such message or matter to be so sent for purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, sends by means of network, a message that he knows to be false, causes such a message to be sent.
127(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character or causes any such message or matter to be so sent.
127(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he sends by means of a public electronic communications network, a message that he knows to be false, causes such a message to be sent or persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.
127(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character or causes any such message or matter to be so sent.
127(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he sends by means of a public electronic communications network, a message that he knows to be false, causes such a message to be sent or persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.
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alleged intimidation
there is no smoking gun here.the pm is friendly and expresses opinion and advice in a friendly manner.there has been no imtimidation and those who wish to tar balpa with the ryanair union busting management threats,bullying,terror and intimidation brush are going to have to come up with far more than over sensitivities.certainly not even the slightest hint that anyone other than a pilot based at slims base has rumbled him and his other half and sent then a pm.
so the search goes on for a ryanair pilot to defend ryanair managements intimidatory and abusive treatment of its staff.first prize,honorary balpa membership for a year.
so the search goes on for a ryanair pilot to defend ryanair managements intimidatory and abusive treatment of its staff.first prize,honorary balpa membership for a year.
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Well Grim
I'm going to leave you and the others to debate the pros and cons here.
I'm off to make sure that BALPA doesn't get a look in at my base to safeguard my job and the jobs of my colleagues.
All the best at your base: I sincerely hope you don't jeopardise your job by your beliefs.
Cheers
Slim
I'm going to leave you and the others to debate the pros and cons here.
I'm off to make sure that BALPA doesn't get a look in at my base to safeguard my job and the jobs of my colleagues.
All the best at your base: I sincerely hope you don't jeopardise your job by your beliefs.
Cheers
Slim
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They will do the same as they have done before all. that is why I have never payed one penny to balpa, I advise you guys to resign or never sign up in the first place,
give your money to a charity etc a far more worthwhile cause
give your money to a charity etc a far more worthwhile cause
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Guys
I am nothing more that one of your many passengers. A person who, thanks to Easy,Ryan,Jet,Bmi etc have been able to go to places that my parents could only dream of.
Are you really thinking of taking on Ryan at a time when their coffers are full of cash and they have plenty of trained staff ready and able to jump into your shoes. Your timing is as bad at the miners.
As a passenger let me say that none of the Loco airlines have much passenger loyalty. I will fly with whoever is the cheapest at the time. So if you disrupt Ryan for a while then I will just fly someone else. Doesn't matter whose name is on the plane.
If you really want to disrupt Ryan rather than its passengers (who you may not get back) then try working strictly to rule.
I am nothing more that one of your many passengers. A person who, thanks to Easy,Ryan,Jet,Bmi etc have been able to go to places that my parents could only dream of.
Are you really thinking of taking on Ryan at a time when their coffers are full of cash and they have plenty of trained staff ready and able to jump into your shoes. Your timing is as bad at the miners.
As a passenger let me say that none of the Loco airlines have much passenger loyalty. I will fly with whoever is the cheapest at the time. So if you disrupt Ryan for a while then I will just fly someone else. Doesn't matter whose name is on the plane.
If you really want to disrupt Ryan rather than its passengers (who you may not get back) then try working strictly to rule.
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more assumptions,suppositions and conjecrure from the latest numpty to join the union busting argument.will soon see this chinless wonder join the way of slim and those about to offer themselves up on the altar mol and his pursuit of profit above all else cult.pilot999 or pilot666,let be having you.
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"The campaign only asks for dignity and respect - why is Ryanair putting a cost on or a penalty for treating its employees better?"
Hey Slim, still waiting for an answer !
You can PM me if you want ......
Hey Slim, still waiting for an answer !
You can PM me if you want ......
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Hear hear Bongle Bear.
Surely life is to short.
May i suggest that ATS takes her old man to one side and calms him down. At this rate he wont even get to the TRE check!!!!
Surely life is to short.
May i suggest that ATS takes her old man to one side and calms him down. At this rate he wont even get to the TRE check!!!!
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hi geoff - great argument for letting my career going down the potty.so you can have a cheap swan of to wherever.maybe you should give us a call if anything develops and we will make sure that your flight is not disturbed.you nearly had me going there,you joker you.now switch off the light and go back to bed luvvy.