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Just happened to glance at this thread and I am glad to see it is not just EZY that have the trolls working for them, ours (Flying Clara) has been booted out recently. Fear not chaps, people like missterrible have ego trips on the fact that they may have some (limited) information that could make all the difference to some fairly life changing senarios and decisions that they have no comprehension of whatsoever and they get off on having people come to them for that info and they milk it to the last to massage their over inflated egos. Shame really.
Heard an ammusing tale recently of someone who had been told he would hear news fairly soon about a job and had been given a probable start date and advised to keep that clear in his diary. As the date grew closer and he had heard nothing he though a polite phonecall might be in order. He got some HR troll who was obvioulsy busy with her skinny latte at the inoportune moment he made his enquiry, and he was told in simple terms "don't call us, we will call you". This chap had the good sense to take note of the date, time and NAME of the person with whom he had had this encounter.
The date he was told to keep clear arrived with no further information having been received. Late that day he received a phonecall from companies' training department asking where he was? His type rating course started that morning!
This type of thing happens day in and day out in the airlines and you get these power tripping runts making comments like that of missterrible above, but the moral of my little tale was that the HR troll in this story was allready on it's last warning and was clearing out it's desk by the time this guy hit the line!
Arrogance is everyewhere I am afraid, but come the day they needed you yesterday then that will change to, until then I am afraid that the cancer that is jumped up trolls like MissT above is just something, sadly, that has to be endured, but rest assured people skills like its' don't go unrewarded for ever, good luck chaps, don't let them get you down and never, never loose your sense of humour
Heard an ammusing tale recently of someone who had been told he would hear news fairly soon about a job and had been given a probable start date and advised to keep that clear in his diary. As the date grew closer and he had heard nothing he though a polite phonecall might be in order. He got some HR troll who was obvioulsy busy with her skinny latte at the inoportune moment he made his enquiry, and he was told in simple terms "don't call us, we will call you". This chap had the good sense to take note of the date, time and NAME of the person with whom he had had this encounter.
The date he was told to keep clear arrived with no further information having been received. Late that day he received a phonecall from companies' training department asking where he was? His type rating course started that morning!
This type of thing happens day in and day out in the airlines and you get these power tripping runts making comments like that of missterrible above, but the moral of my little tale was that the HR troll in this story was allready on it's last warning and was clearing out it's desk by the time this guy hit the line!
Arrogance is everyewhere I am afraid, but come the day they needed you yesterday then that will change to, until then I am afraid that the cancer that is jumped up trolls like MissT above is just something, sadly, that has to be endured, but rest assured people skills like its' don't go unrewarded for ever, good luck chaps, don't let them get you down and never, never loose your sense of humour
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missterrible,
I will have to guess at what your question means. I presume it is rhetorical and that you feel that pilots who have voluntarily undergone training for a commercial licence and paid for it and possibly also for a type rating seem to feel that they are entitled to be employed and paid by an airline. Perhaps you also feel that they are wrong and that they have no such entitlement. If that is the case then I agree with you. Nobody has any such entitlement and nobody is owed a living unless they are employed and doing productive work in return for that living.
However, I am not aware of any such suggestion on this thread. The general point seems to be that Aer Lingus invited applications from suitably qualified pilots for employment in Gatwick. Some were successful and have already taken up their positions. Congratulations to them and welcome. Some others were offered positions, given course dates, and so served notice on their current employers of thier impending resignation only to find that their courses were cancelled and so they found themselves unemployed. A third group completed the selection process and were never told whether they were selected or not. All they seem to be asking for is a little common courtesy and simple good manners. It seems a reasonable request to me.
If I have misunderstood your point then I apologise. Perhaps you would explain your question if that is the case.
I will have to guess at what your question means. I presume it is rhetorical and that you feel that pilots who have voluntarily undergone training for a commercial licence and paid for it and possibly also for a type rating seem to feel that they are entitled to be employed and paid by an airline. Perhaps you also feel that they are wrong and that they have no such entitlement. If that is the case then I agree with you. Nobody has any such entitlement and nobody is owed a living unless they are employed and doing productive work in return for that living.
However, I am not aware of any such suggestion on this thread. The general point seems to be that Aer Lingus invited applications from suitably qualified pilots for employment in Gatwick. Some were successful and have already taken up their positions. Congratulations to them and welcome. Some others were offered positions, given course dates, and so served notice on their current employers of thier impending resignation only to find that their courses were cancelled and so they found themselves unemployed. A third group completed the selection process and were never told whether they were selected or not. All they seem to be asking for is a little common courtesy and simple good manners. It seems a reasonable request to me.
If I have misunderstood your point then I apologise. Perhaps you would explain your question if that is the case.
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Missterrible..
I can't tell if you are taking the piss, but sadly I don't think you are.
Pilots don't appoint themselves, only dictators and God have that honour and pilots only think they are Gods.
All employees are owed renumeration by their employer, you could call it a living, but it's not what it was 10 years ago.
I really hope your not in the HR department in Aer Lingus, trying to deball pilots on a daily basis.
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I can't tell if you are taking the piss, but sadly I don't think you are.
Pilots don't appoint themselves, only dictators and God have that honour and pilots only think they are Gods.
All employees are owed renumeration by their employer, you could call it a living, but it's not what it was 10 years ago.
I really hope your not in the HR department in Aer Lingus, trying to deball pilots on a daily basis.
P.S. ezydriver, post of the year, wellldone
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Wacked,
I have been in Aer Lingus long enough to remember when the HR dept was a model of best practice in dealing with current and prospective employees. Sadly, the sociopathic behaviour of one individual at a high level can have a disastrous effect. I know several people within the dept who are appalled and ashamed of what they see going on around them.
On another note, ezydriver, I'm sure we'd all love to hear exactly what happened to the delightful Flying Clara.
I have been in Aer Lingus long enough to remember when the HR dept was a model of best practice in dealing with current and prospective employees. Sadly, the sociopathic behaviour of one individual at a high level can have a disastrous effect. I know several people within the dept who are appalled and ashamed of what they see going on around them.
On another note, ezydriver, I'm sure we'd all love to hear exactly what happened to the delightful Flying Clara.
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Well done Tooloose you got it.
Ezydriver do you get off on calling people cancer? Do you know anyone who ever had cancer? A disgusting comment from exactly the type of individual I was talking about. You are the epitome of the egos who feel the airline revolves around them. Guess what, it doesn't.
Not all pilots are like that but you would be amazed at the attitude of some people who think they are owed a job and try to bully those charged with deciding who gets in.
Ezydriver do you get off on calling people cancer? Do you know anyone who ever had cancer? A disgusting comment from exactly the type of individual I was talking about. You are the epitome of the egos who feel the airline revolves around them. Guess what, it doesn't.
Not all pilots are like that but you would be amazed at the attitude of some people who think they are owed a job and try to bully those charged with deciding who gets in.
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missterrible,
I don't think you're getting it though (the point, nothing else). Read the second paragraph. People have the right not be treated in a cavalier manner. It seems odd to me that someone with such disdain for others should seek to work in Human Resources. And no one on this thread has displayed the attitude you describe. They would just like to be informed in a reasonable amount of time whether their application has been successful or not. You seem to think that is too much to ask. I don't.
I don't think you're getting it though (the point, nothing else). Read the second paragraph. People have the right not be treated in a cavalier manner. It seems odd to me that someone with such disdain for others should seek to work in Human Resources. And no one on this thread has displayed the attitude you describe. They would just like to be informed in a reasonable amount of time whether their application has been successful or not. You seem to think that is too much to ask. I don't.
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Tooloose, is it unreasonable to assume that some of the those applying in the real world are some of the writing about their applications on pPrune? Would it also be reasonable to assume that the more vocal complaining types of those are also more likely to be the more vocal complaining type here?
A guy whining about not hearing anything for a month is not living in the real world. Not just the airline world but any industry. The current economic climate makes it even more difficult as the goalposts keep moving. Throw in a departing CX and you may realise that those worried about their current jobs might be a bit sensitive to arrogant twits phoning daily demanding to know when they might get their rightful employment.
A guy whining about not hearing anything for a month is not living in the real world. Not just the airline world but any industry. The current economic climate makes it even more difficult as the goalposts keep moving. Throw in a departing CX and you may realise that those worried about their current jobs might be a bit sensitive to arrogant twits phoning daily demanding to know when they might get their rightful employment.
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Missterrible..
I think I know what your are trying to say when it comes to people who phone on a daily basis, but you have an awful way of saying it.
I do however think that the majority of guys would not fall into this category. I think it is the height of arrogance to say that just because the airline business is in a state of flux that manners should go out the window. It would take 10mins out of someones day to send an email to all the interviewees saying that we haven't forgotten about you. No offence, but you sound like a complete dragon.
I think I know what your are trying to say when it comes to people who phone on a daily basis, but you have an awful way of saying it.
I do however think that the majority of guys would not fall into this category. I think it is the height of arrogance to say that just because the airline business is in a state of flux that manners should go out the window. It would take 10mins out of someones day to send an email to all the interviewees saying that we haven't forgotten about you. No offence, but you sound like a complete dragon.
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Missterrible..
I think I know what your are trying to say when it comes to people who phone on a daily basis, but you have an awful way of saying it.
I do however think that the majority of guys would not fall into this category. I think it is the height of arrogance to say that just because the airline business is in a state of flux that manners should go out the window. It would take 10mins out of someones day to send an email to all the interviewees saying that we haven't forgotten about you. No offence, but you sound like a complete dragon.
I think I know what your are trying to say when it comes to people who phone on a daily basis, but you have an awful way of saying it.
I do however think that the majority of guys would not fall into this category. I think it is the height of arrogance to say that just because the airline business is in a state of flux that manners should go out the window. It would take 10mins out of someones day to send an email to all the interviewees saying that we haven't forgotten about you. No offence, but you sound like a complete dragon.
Wacked. I realise this is a pilots forum and there may even be some real pilots here hidden among the frauds so I don't expect any sympathy.
Here is a big hint though. Don't go whining on the internet about a named HR department thinking that you are safe because you are anonymous. You have posted your experience elsewhere on this site among other clues. Not very bright.
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LOL Why oh why???
Silly idea posting on here.
MissT may i just apologise for offending you and your principles. I am sorry if you have had some bad experiences with crew before and i hope your job is safe why wouldn't I?
Point is this was a post to try and gain information from others in a similar position, not a post trying to pressure, belittle or make Aer Lingus or their HR department look bad. (And so as not to be one of the very people you speak of that expect a job and ring HR depts. on a daily bases)
As for hiding on pprune not really one of those people, I'm not really interested in sniping at people in the ether.
Silly idea posting on here.
MissT may i just apologise for offending you and your principles. I am sorry if you have had some bad experiences with crew before and i hope your job is safe why wouldn't I?
Point is this was a post to try and gain information from others in a similar position, not a post trying to pressure, belittle or make Aer Lingus or their HR department look bad. (And so as not to be one of the very people you speak of that expect a job and ring HR depts. on a daily bases)
As for hiding on pprune not really one of those people, I'm not really interested in sniping at people in the ether.