Industrial action!

[Starbear]

Genuine question

Why are Easy suggesting contract captains at all? Surely with the downturn they cannot be short of captains or if they are, I read elsewhere they have a considerable pool in waiting. Is this suggestion just a deliberate threat for some other reason?

All comments regarding the almost continual drip erosion of T & Cs are valid and not just at Easy of course, its just that it seems to take us all so long to wake up to the idea. And to those who say "don't rock the boat and have you seen how bad the real world is etc. etc." Just how far would it have to go to get your attention?

[Leo Hairy-Camel]

Sour Oranges.

Remember also that Al Italia pilots had the guts to stand their ground in the airline darkest hour.

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, GreatBelt, are you for real? It takes a brave, brave man to hold the Italian Zombie up as the high water mark in pilot industrial relations. I thought in you I'd located my choice for imbecile of the year award, but wait, there's more!

I don't know the answer but feel that burning the extra fuel is probably the most effective way of making your point

At a time when, next to survival itself, environmental politics is the defining red button issue in our industry, and when well-intended but cluelessly misled groups like Plane Stupid (sic) are utilising guerilla tactics in making their point, what does Centreline747 offer them and others on a platter? That's right, he's telling the world that pilots are encouraging acts of environmental sabotage. Well done, that man! Proof, if any more were needed, that sitting so high in the cockpit accelerates the irradiation of one's brain by cosmic radiation.

Our jumbo driving BALPA member goes on.....

This is one of the reasons the aviation industry has lost so much ground in the last 30 years.

No it isn't, chum. "lost so much ground", for those unaccustomed to their tiresome recruiting campaigns, is BALPA code for the transformation of the industry whereby customers have decided they'd rather not pay an extra three or four hundred quid for the pleasure of a rubber chicken dinner served to them by a sour, menopausal frump. When this great eye opener occurred in the collective psyche of our customers (remember them, boys?) the days of fur-lined conditions for the few were consigned to the way of the Dodo.

That they don't like it is, I suppose, understandable, but the paucity of their argument in defence of the bad old days and, worse still, their suggestion that union membership is somehow the universal panacea for pissed-off pilots everywhere is offensive and disingenuous in equal measure.

To them, of course, it is irrelevant that thousands of more pilots have jobs these days, and millions more customers can afford to fly. To them, a full plane is proof that an airline is profitable. The truth is, they wouldn't recognise yield management or unit cost if it ran into them in a lubricated Ferrari. No matter, though, the literature demonstrating that Throttle Monkeys make for terrible businessmen is documented to the heavens, as these four pages will ably attest.

To the pilots of EZY, go on boys, STRIKE. I double-dog-dare you! And over what? Oh that's right. No more free water, coffee and crew meals. BALPA fiddles while Easyjet burns.

TO THE BARRICADES, COMRADES. Last one in the bunker's a sissy!

[BitMoreRightRudder]

We just don't like the idea of taking it up the proverbial everyday Leo, like your boys do. Funny you mention lubrication in your musings there - I imagine you're an expert in such matters.

[Stan Woolley]

BitMoreRightRudder

Very short memory at easyJet haven't you, or probably just a new boy?

Anyone with any sense left years ago, why do you think they eventually looked at the roster? Now the balls firmly in their court again so expect the worst.

Hell will freeze over before easyJet pilots go on strike.

[Cancel2LateLunches]

Sorry to correct you again but LYS is not a pilot base

[BusBoy]

The issue is not so much about the erosion of Ts&Cs.I genuinely believe we would all give up whatever was required IF it were a level playing field, IF someone was not going to collect a fat bonus for saving this £400k on Tea and Coffee.
Come on guys, the issue is not crew food or drinks. Personally I like working at EZY and will go a long way to see it weather the storm. HOWEVER, if the management are going to convert all our fuel & crew savings into bonus payments then why the hell should we bother.

be the best beat the rest?? think not, more like "Do as I say not as I do"

[BitMoreRightRudder]

Stan Woolley

No I've been here a while, through the last stand-off over pay, and long enough to know that working for a loco means management have us by the balls. Doesn't mean as a group ezy pilots should abandon collective representation, surrender hard won T&Cs and bend over, like you boys over at FR.

Anyone with any sense left years ago

They didn't join Ryanair, that's for sure.

[Stan Woolley]

BitMoreRightRudder

Fighting talk right enough!

Lets see what transpires.

[qwertyuiop]

Busboy has hit the nail firmly on the head.
The £400k cost saving has not saved the airline, it has boosted a managers bonus. We have seen the bankers rape and pilage the economy and many airline managers are doing the same.
There are so many areas that would improve the bottom line but the stupid managers ignore these, The Pointy End highlighted a couple. I fear for EasyJet as it seems to be in the control of a very short sighted bunch of below average managers. Stelios must be very concerned that the vibrant, energetic company he started is in such poor hands.

[stakeknife]

Wouldn't be so sure about EZY pilots not striking, every improvement in T&C's has come from sticking together and the threat of industrial action. It's not about tea and coffee, the pilot group will fight hard for EZY as most of us are shareholders however we have lost faith in the current management team who want short term gains for themselves which we have to pay for. In short, it ain't going to happen! For those EZY pilots here, email the bonus takers and let them know how disappointed you are in them! As for the rest of you non EZY pilots, thanks for your opinions , they are duly noted but we will fight this one out thanks.

[Meikleour]

Because no pilots are permanently based there! Go check with your `boyfriend`!!

[kick the tires]

Guys,

ignore Crala,

She claims/dreams of working for ezy and knows nothing of the Company, her latest being LYS as a pilot base.

She claims to shag training captains for advancement for god sake!

Still, entertainment value is there I suppose.

[disco87]

Comedy Gold

[BitMoreRightRudder]

I am in love with an easyjet training captain based in the euroland, and sexually everything is perfect.

Yep, this is getting priceless.

[EpsilonVaz]

I was based in the uk for my line training, and my next base for this summer I still don't know what it'll be.

12 ATP cadets have been offered summer contracts with EZY, their bases were allocated about 2 weeks ago. Another hole in your story .

I really wonder what your motivation is for trolling all the EZY threads .

[Marvo]

Leo, Oh how I've missed you ! and for once I slightly agree with your post. It's only taken me three years and several flights (twice June 06)with you but you are nearly making sense..

Having experienced the delights at Ryanair I came to easyJet for improved the T's and C's. Striking because of the removal of tea and coffee in todays economic climate would be suicidal - the introduction of contract captains whilst SFO's like myself wait for years, to finally go on a 75% temp contract, is worth fighting over however. If the guys at FR stood up to MOL and Leo for once it might be a great place to be again.


Ignore Clara ,as HE is a windup merchant - but very amusing.

[disco87]

I give it a month...tops

[Centreline747]

Aaaahhhh!! isn't that so sweet

[EpsilonVaz]

I didn't say ATP CTC, I said ATP. All bases have been allocated and confirmed. Anyway, need to stop feeding the troll, the food is expensive .

[kick the tires]

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I want to screw your ass my little clara, and I will then have a slash on your pussy.

kick the tires
thank you for your PM but you are too rude for me.


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