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Joined: Mar 2007
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From: EU
Dear Jean- Philippe 68,
You seem to have now changed your mind...in the right way ! A few months ago you did not agree with me to the fact that Low cost are !!!! place to work, and the only thing they can do is to downgrade the conditions and salary of our profession, and make air transport worse and worse to the PAX. I told you, I told you, you and your friends, you have to get out of that ******* !!!! (ryanair, easyjet, wizzair, vueling, skyeurope...) , and please listen to me for god sake, GO TO MAIN AIRLINES like BA, AF-KLM, things like that, you will immediatly stop to complain as your frustration will disapear.
Bonne Chance.
Guillaume (AF)
You seem to have now changed your mind...in the right way ! A few months ago you did not agree with me to the fact that Low cost are !!!! place to work, and the only thing they can do is to downgrade the conditions and salary of our profession, and make air transport worse and worse to the PAX. I told you, I told you, you and your friends, you have to get out of that ******* !!!! (ryanair, easyjet, wizzair, vueling, skyeurope...) , and please listen to me for god sake, GO TO MAIN AIRLINES like BA, AF-KLM, things like that, you will immediatly stop to complain as your frustration will disapear.
Bonne Chance.
Guillaume (AF)
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: depends on the mood
ahahahaaha i can agree with you for some things..but I really wish that getting rid of peoples frustrations was as easy as joining a flag carrier! I have heard sooooo many (sometimes absurd) complaints from major carriers pilots.
The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!).
I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you!
ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffe
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The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!).
I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you!
ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffe
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 105
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From: EU
ahahahaaha i can agree with you for some things..but I really wish that getting rid of peoples frustrations was as easy as joining a flag carrier! I have heard sooooo many (sometimes absurd) complaints from major carriers pilots.
The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!).
I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you!
ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffe
!
The difference is that most of low cost airlines pilots will be somewhere else in 10 years hopefully enjoying a new adventure, in a new enviroment, learning new things (this yes is good to get rid of frustrations!).
I have yet to see an AF pilot leaving for a contract in Central America!Having said that, nuageblanc it's very good you found heaven on earth and enjoy it without always comparing your situations to everyone else that is not as lucky (?) as you!
ok I m tired now..I ll go get myself a coffe
!
please say again after "ahahahahaha" ?
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 387
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From: Scotland mainly, rather than at home.
"Whilst water will continue to be provided, tea and coffee will be removed. However, milk and cups will be provided should crew wish to bring their own tea and coffee. This change to drinks pack alone provides a saving of £400 000."
Joined: Dec 2002
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From: UK
Why don't you jetjocks with your vectored ILS approaches to 2600m runways take a month off and jumpseat with Wideroe going into some godforsaken corner of northern Norway with the winds howling down the mountains on an NDB approach to land on a 800m runway lodged in some fjord. Then you can go back to your airbus, switch on the a/p, grab your coffee and keep kidding yourselves that you're better pilots.
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 117
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From: Somerset
is this tea and coffee thing for real. I m always embarrassed when i have to tell friends we ask for 'hot waters'....but thought EasyJet was an example of what working for RYR should be like....but perhaps not. Even with union backing ...
This is depressing..are any carriers actually suitable for long terms careers, where will we be in 20 years time......
'where re doomed'
This is depressing..are any carriers actually suitable for long terms careers, where will we be in 20 years time......
'where re doomed'
Joined: Apr 2000
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From: Where my head rests
Flying Clara I'm assuming for your sake that you don't work for an airline (and lets hope if you do it's not easyjet).
I agree you can bring water, coke cola, orange juice on board the aircraft if you buy them airside or if they're brought through security empty. Ryanair has it's crew room airside and they are able to fill their containers up from water machines available to them. Unfortunately easyJet does not have crew rooms airside so this is not possible, also no water machines, so a little difficult to do this.
Yes I know Rosco328 but it's so much fun to bite sometimes and she makes this thread so much more interesting to read. I read it to have a laugh at her comments!
I agree you can bring water, coke cola, orange juice on board the aircraft if you buy them airside or if they're brought through security empty. Ryanair has it's crew room airside and they are able to fill their containers up from water machines available to them. Unfortunately easyJet does not have crew rooms airside so this is not possible, also no water machines, so a little difficult to do this.
Stop biting Guys and gals!! FC is a wynd up merchant! We do not see it on the private page because it is not an employee.....simpoles!!!
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Joined: Jan 2005
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From: UK
Clara what on earth are you on about. At Gatwick where I work, you are certainly not allowed to bring any liquids through security (regardless of ID and Uniform). There is neither the opportunity nor the time to buy liquids airside having passed through security, so exactly how are you supposed to take any drinks with you?
Joined: May 2007
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From: West Sussex
Flying Clara
In the UK you can still only bring liquids through security in 100ml containers. Not a practical option for bringing drinks to work with you. Airport staff and flight crew are NOT exempt from these rules... The only option is to buy overpriced drinks from an airside shop or vending machine - that's assuming you have time to queue up with the passengers or can find a machine that actually works when you put your £1.60 in, (yes it's £1.60 for a bottle of coke!)
In the UK you can still only bring liquids through security in 100ml containers. Not a practical option for bringing drinks to work with you. Airport staff and flight crew are NOT exempt from these rules... The only option is to buy overpriced drinks from an airside shop or vending machine - that's assuming you have time to queue up with the passengers or can find a machine that actually works when you put your £1.60 in, (yes it's £1.60 for a bottle of coke!)
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Scotland mainly, rather than at home.
I work for a small bottom feeder cargo airline. We have no liquids available on board, paid for or otherwise. If we're organised we load up with drinks when outside of the UK, but generally we're not, and the aircraft is devoid of coke! It IS a problem. We operate in a dry (well drier than on the ground) atmosphere, and it's thirsty work. I used to envy bigger airlines like Easy with their coffee perks (no pun).
Although this sounds like a small issue, when you work day in, day out, and have to buy drinks airside, it does become expensive.
Heaven only knows when things will pick up in this industry, but, if in the future it did ever happen to boil down to (okay, pun intended) a job offer with a company who look after you on the flight deck, compared to Easy who now seem to be driving towards you incurring more and more high costs whilst at work (often, no doubt, having to buy from Easy themselves to top up your water allowance), I know where I'd be inclined. After all, it's the small things which often display how you'll be valued as an employee in the long run.
Regrettably I cannot forsee myself ever being in such a situation of choice. For now....
Although this sounds like a small issue, when you work day in, day out, and have to buy drinks airside, it does become expensive.
Heaven only knows when things will pick up in this industry, but, if in the future it did ever happen to boil down to (okay, pun intended) a job offer with a company who look after you on the flight deck, compared to Easy who now seem to be driving towards you incurring more and more high costs whilst at work (often, no doubt, having to buy from Easy themselves to top up your water allowance), I know where I'd be inclined. After all, it's the small things which often display how you'll be valued as an employee in the long run.
Regrettably I cannot forsee myself ever being in such a situation of choice. For now....