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Old 12th Feb 2009, 15:10
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Question Jetstream 41 - Romania

Heard (from an agency) there is to be some recruitment for J41 crews based in Romania. Any idea where these aircraft are coming from and which airline is involved?
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Tha agency told me they would be coming from Eastern...
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I for one am applying. Some years ago I flew the ATP, enjoyed the bird. Im flying the 330 now and being laid off very soon....i look forward to a real airplane, albeit its lack of power.
See you there!!
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Have heard the name "Direct Aero Services" mentioned. Can't find a thing about them on the net. Anyone heard of them?
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I guess Direct Aero Services may be a holding company or such like ?

I'm begining to seriously consider this job, out of desperation more than anything. So I would be very interested to get any views of

a) Blue-air as a company in general - standard of Ops and Engineering, Safety culture, Management etc etc., and

b) life as an expat in Romania - how easy/difficult is it to live there, english widely spoken ? Transport system (Bucharest/country in general) ? Standard of health care, economy (as it's a low cost operator I'll be feeding myself), getting a personal bank account or any none-resident type of problems ?

Yes I have searched, but very meagre pickings, so any offers gratefully accepted.

Thanks.

L8.
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Don't know where you heard Blue Air. They are a lo-cost operating a handful of 737's.
More likely this would be in support of Carpatair, who recently down-sized (their aircraft & operation ) based not in Bucharest but Timisoara.
I may however be wrong, just surmising.
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Old 11th Mar 2009, 19:59
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It is definitely Blue Air. As stated above Direct Aero Services must be a holding company. Terms and conditions leave a bit to be desired though.
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Aerotaxi - Taximetrie aeriana

Part of Blueair, currently operating some helicopters and some small piston cessna 172s.

Cannot speak about the company (don't work there), but i can tell you a little about Bucharest:

English is widely spoken, the city is quite expensive to live in (rent for a single bedroom would be around 700-900 depending on location), transport is pretty bad (no highways and the number of cars increasing every year), health system is ok (if you have also some private health plan with a local company it can be very good) and finally about the bank account there is no problem if you are not a romanian or resident (you just cannot apply for a credit).

Hope it helps, good luck
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It's related to Blue Air, but not started by Blue Air. Blue Air is owned by Romstrade, a construction firm. They own the Direct Air AOC, which I believe is now limited to just some helicopters and King Air's used on charters and Romanian post contracts. Blue Air, again through affiliates, is also getting into the airport management business in Romania.
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Angel Jetstream 41 -- ROMANIA

Hi guys,
I have the job description in my hand, and I´m starting to consider to apply for this position. If anyone has any doubt you can ask me.

Thanks

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Hmmmm. Desperate times indeed:
It was offered to me at, (sit down) 2600 Euros a month for LHS!!!!
I'm sorry but who is taking the pi$$ here? The company or the agent?
I need a job but I can earn more than that in a pub, going home to my bed at night and not living in a 3rd world country.
The T&C's need to be more than twice that before anyone could seriously consider it. If you accept it as is then another nail in our coffin!
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I agree the salary (assuming the stated number is correct) is a joke. However, it seems a bit unfair to call Rumania a third world country. Yes, there is lot's of poverty and the rural areas are still decades behind the west but Bucarest has most things you would expect from a first world capital.
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So lets make that a first worldcapital and a thirld world country, sorted
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Whilst they will no doubt get a number of desperate pilots take up these terms, what they have obviously failed to grasp is that as soon as these pilots get a better offer elsewhere they will be off (one months notice). And the 12 month reducing bond will hardly be a deterrent. Leaving Blue Air/Direct Aero Services with un-crewed aircraft. Unless of course there is something in the contract with Eastern Airways that says Eastern will provide them with crews under such circumstances. I think Eastern are very keen to offload these excess to requirement aircraft, so they may well have offered some contingency crews where necessary. I also note from PPJN that Eastern starting pay is £36455 for LHS as opposed to this Blue Air contract of €28000 - the only disadvantage of Eastern by comparison is a three year bond.
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733 driver, agreed with "most things" ,but unfortunately that also includes prices, particularly when you are identified as a foreigner.
I am led to believe that accomodation is provided (don't know of what standard ) but happyjack, agreed, the salary is a pi$$-take.
The problem is, in the current employer-biased times, they will have no shortage of takers.
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Time to sell up and smoke dope on the beach then!
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Probably the most worthwhile suggestion I have seen on "Terms & Endearments " for some time.
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Old 13th Mar 2009, 19:10
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happyjack ...romania is not a 3rd world country....don't belive everything you see on TV....came here and see for yourself...ofcourse, i can't compare romania with other country from western europe....for obvios reasons i won't go into details...a lot of good things happend in romania after '89....if you have any questions i am happy to aswer...
anyway...i also applied for tis job...as a first officer...but for the moment they don't have captains ....and happyjack....who knows maybe we will meet in romania...drink a few beers and talk about beautiful places from here....

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romania is not a 3rd world country....don't belive everything you see on TV....came here and see for yourself...
Bucharest is not exactly a beautiful city, in fact its a dump... and one of the few places in the Europe their seems to be animosity towards foreigners. I recall the travel channel (?) did a story on the country that was universally well received except by the Romanians... in Bucharest you will be ripped off at EVERY opportunity. The Women can be beautiful, but arrogant and unapproachable. Rental prices are TOTALLY unrealistic (a bit like Moscow but at least Moscow has some class). Tried a few years ago to style itself as the "Clubbing Capital of Europe" - laughable at best delusional at worse.

I can think of far better places to live... even Luton.
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Not been there myself but know several people who have (lived there helping orphans etc and not just for hols).

Gather English speakers are scorned even if they try and speak the lingo - locals aren't friendly regarding this and will ignore if tense and pronunciation and gender aren't absolutely correct - worse than the pprune spellcheckers. Bit like France used to be 30+ years ago, thankfully now the French like most of Europe welcome our feeble attempts at speaking their lingo and acknowledge we are doing our best. Romania by all accounts this is not true.

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I can think of far better places to live... even Luton.
How about Aberdeen!

And for Dannutz - what is the local beer like? Bet it's not real ale but more lagerish?
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