No annual leave for 6 months for Ryanair pilots
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Winkle... I have to say that after 30+ years in all aspects of aviating I have to say that the worst day in the cockpit still beats the best day in the office behind the desk...
I'm sure that most may disagree with me on this one.
I'm sure that most may disagree with me on this one.
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And wither pray tell will ZEROTOHERO be skipping off to? Few if any want FR captains as anything other than experienced FO's. In the mean time you denigrate our profession and degrade our T&C's. Its all been said before and I bit, apologies, but every so often a fool trips the switch.
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you are right for the short amount of time i have spent behind a desk the worst days in aviation beat it..... but i have also had a huge amount of pleasure from many other aspects of differing employment (although none that come close to mil aviation) I just think that the lifestyle of an airline pilot has changed and doesnt have the credence it deserves thats why i say that the pilots should become more visible to the punters.
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Not sure if you can call FR a stepping stone really given that it is one of the 'BIG FOUR'.Stable rosters unlike other airlines and plenty of opportunity.And also a chance to be based close to your home.Certainly one of the safest houses around at the moment.
The 'grass is always greener' at other airlines.
The 'grass is always greener' at other airlines.
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zerooooooooooto heroooooooooooo
where do you get off calling other people daft simply because they want a slightly different life to you?
I'll explain it to you simply:
At STN for example there is a 5 on 4 off pattern, which means there are on average a little over three cycles per month. If you are flying 100hrs that means over 30 hours per work cycle of five days, week in week out, with no leave. Have you ever heard of the phrase 'fatigue management'?
Personally I would rather spread my work out a little and remain safe throughout the year, rather than working while fatigued just so i could go skiing for a couple of months. And in any case I have a feeling the company will want the 900 hrs and send you off on unpaid leave to do your powder prancing.
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where do you get off calling other people daft simply because they want a slightly different life to you?
I'll explain it to you simply:
At STN for example there is a 5 on 4 off pattern, which means there are on average a little over three cycles per month. If you are flying 100hrs that means over 30 hours per work cycle of five days, week in week out, with no leave. Have you ever heard of the phrase 'fatigue management'?
Personally I would rather spread my work out a little and remain safe throughout the year, rather than working while fatigued just so i could go skiing for a couple of months. And in any case I have a feeling the company will want the 900 hrs and send you off on unpaid leave to do your powder prancing.
Safe landings
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If, and I mean if one of these new deals is accepted with the annual leave ammendment then I would imagine April to September maybe October 100 hours every month (which is 600-700hrs) The months with 31 days expect 100 to 110 hours.
The rapid accumulation of flying and duty time is a chronic problem which needs addressing.
Anyone who agrees or is considering these new pay offers is a mug and must be enlightened.
MrHorgy and Zerotohero - you are symptematic of the obnoxious "I want it all now" selfish Co-pilots I fly with occasionally that only look out for themselves. I spend much of my time time selling/lobbying the idea of union recognition and repaweb.org only to be met with "I am not paying one percent of my salary to join" "I am Brookfield it doesn't affect me" "I won't be here much longer" "I don't want to piss of rostering/company because they reduce my flying". The list of excuses is endless and dull.
This sudden appearance of the base visits is a clear warning to all those too scared to stick up for themselves and their livelihood.
The rapid accumulation of flying and duty time is a chronic problem which needs addressing.
Anyone who agrees or is considering these new pay offers is a mug and must be enlightened.
MrHorgy and Zerotohero - you are symptematic of the obnoxious "I want it all now" selfish Co-pilots I fly with occasionally that only look out for themselves. I spend much of my time time selling/lobbying the idea of union recognition and repaweb.org only to be met with "I am not paying one percent of my salary to join" "I am Brookfield it doesn't affect me" "I won't be here much longer" "I don't want to piss of rostering/company because they reduce my flying". The list of excuses is endless and dull.
This sudden appearance of the base visits is a clear warning to all those too scared to stick up for themselves and their livelihood.
