Notices
Terms and Endearment The forum the bean counters hoped would never happen. Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work - scheduled, charter or contract.

jet4you

Old 22nd December 2008 | 05:21
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 494
Likes: 4
From: Europe
jet4you

I would like to have more information regarding Jet4you (Marocco). How are the working conditions. Can I trust them?

Any info regarding the selection?. (simulator profile etc).
Jimmy The Big Greek is offline  
Reply
Old 22nd December 2008 | 22:50
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: USA
Who are Jet4You & what licenses are they looking for? I understand that they are a Moroccan company, would they accept FAA ATP? If not is it easy to convert over to a Moroccan License?

Any information would be appreciated.
Lost R.E.M. is offline  
Reply
Old 23rd December 2008 | 09:36
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
From: Good From Far, Far From Good
I think since a while back,the Moroccan DAC does not validate FAA licenses anymore.

Foreign pilots wanting or working in Morocco can only obtain validations of their valid ICAO licenses.

Things might have changed by now, Best is to contact the company for an answer on that.
concordino is offline  
Reply
Old 23rd December 2008 | 10:09
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,695
Likes: 1
From: Egcc
Jet4you.com - Home

TUI owned (not sure of the percentage), they don't come much bigger than them.........TUI AG Homepage

Jet4you: TUI’s Moroccan-based LCC is focused on France | anna.aero
Pilot Pete is offline  
Reply
Old 23rd December 2008 | 10:18
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
From: UK
TUI...they don't come much bigger than them...
That's true! But they certainly aren't impressive...a complete mess!
Sean Dillon is offline  
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 10:06
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,695
Likes: 1
From: Egcc
!! Yeah, but big enough to survive the next few years I think. More than can be said about some.

PP
Pilot Pete is offline  
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 10:58
  #7 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,349
Likes: 1
From: FUBAR
Big enough to have two threads running No 1 & 2 on this forum ? I don't think so. Perhaps the mods would like to do a little combination work here ?
captplaystation is offline  
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 12:28
  #8 (permalink)  
Nightrider
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
PilotPete, your thinking is wrong, lot of changes to come.....
 
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 15:50
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
From: uk
what changes are those, would love to hear what you know!!!
rjay259 is offline  
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 16:04
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 734
Likes: 0
From: UK
I would like to have more information regarding Jet4you (Marocco). How are the working conditions. Can I trust them?
Personally, I wouldn't trust a company that has numbers in its name, or uses text speak, with anything more than my kids toys...
dallas is offline  
Reply
Old 27th December 2008 | 16:45
  #11 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 305
Likes: 5
From: north yorkshire
TUI owned (not sure of the percentage),
100% TUI owned.
flybar is offline  
Reply
Old 28th December 2008 | 16:22
  #12 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 494
Likes: 4
From: Europe
so if it is 100% TUI then we can expect a TUI assessment. I searched the web but I could not find anything.
Jimmy The Big Greek is offline  
Reply
Old 29th December 2008 | 13:20
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,695
Likes: 1
From: Egcc
PilotPete, your thinking is wrong, lot of changes to come.....
Sorry, which bit is wrong? You think TUI won't survive?

PP
Pilot Pete is offline  
Reply
Old 30th December 2008 | 03:54
  #14 (permalink)  
Nightrider
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
There are plenty of changes which took place already, the Moroccan support is already very much gone, it is now a Belgium company, also this is TUI, it is not the same way as it was. 1 aircraft left the fleet, another one parked in France awaiting financial decision about repairs, no replacements in sight.
The very near future will bring another very strong competitor just right down the porch, it does not look very nice ......
 
Reply
Old 30th December 2008 | 09:12
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Norway
Danger

I have a freind who told me that he had to be bonded for as much as 18500 Euro´s. To be paid back if he did not stay for the duration of 12 months (fair enough), but also if he would fail any PC´s or the OCC or the M check that you have to go through. So basically they could decide if they wanted him to fail one of these, and then he would owe them a lot of money... Offcourse he said no thank you...
Fladbrokeandbusted is offline  
Reply
Old 30th December 2008 | 15:09
  #16 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 494
Likes: 4
From: Europe
I really don't think that it is legal to force someone to pay 18500eu just because he failed a simulator check.
Jimmy The Big Greek is offline  
Reply
Old 4th January 2009 | 20:16
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Norway
well, that was what he was told anyway.

He offered them to be bonded for the 12 months contract but not for the OPC etc... they said no thank you to that..He had to be bonded for the entire thing.. wonder why
Fladbrokeandbusted is offline  
Reply
Old 5th January 2009 | 09:04
  #18 (permalink)  
Nightrider
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Who will blame any operator to reconsider T&Cs if constantly faced with employees or contractors breaking the rules? Too many of our colleagues have left the country overnight as they didn't like the challenges. Reason? They did not do their homework. Fatiguing FDTL and constantly changing schedules have initiated many fights between crew and screwing departments, and this across all operators in the country.
A new FDTL is in place, will take some time to settle in, things may change.
What will never change is the mentallity which expects you to be available 24hrs, even on so called 'blank' days. These days appear in your schedule with no duty. They are automatically considered as standby.

When going for interview, ask for a sample schedule, see what your job will be, try to communicate with others before you sign the dotted line.
Talk to the agency, Contractair for Jet4you and Parc or Rishworth for Atlas Blue, don't know Air Arabia's agent yet but, the grapevine says that a direct word to them in headquarters leads to an offer for qualified Bus drivers.

And it is not only the companies check you have to pass. There is the DAC which requires a checkflight as well. Also it complies to most checks you are familar with, there are sometimes odd bits which are thrown at you, leaking fuel tank with engine failure on the other side and wx at limits for a circling approach as the ILS RWY has 18 kn tailwind, all followed by a nice go-around in obstacle filled environment, just forgot, the gear may not retract after go-around......
Not everyone has passed the DAC check; it is all a question of how far are other country interests are involved. And the loophole in the agency contracts was to get out of the contract without penalty if company training and check was passed successfully.....it did not mention the DAC check.
 
Reply
Old 5th January 2009 | 15:56
  #19 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,832
Likes: 115
From: UK
TUI: "they don't come much bigger than them."

Like: Pan Am

Like: TWA

Like: Swissair

Like: SABENA

I used to think like that and now I have a wardrobe full of different uniforms!

Thank God I have retired.
JW411 is offline  
Reply
Old 5th January 2009 | 18:20
  #20 (permalink)  
A4

Ut Sementem Feeceris
Community Builder
25 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 4,791
Likes: 2,317
From: UK
.....there are sometimes odd bits which are thrown at you, leaking fuel tank with engine failure on the other side and wx at limits for a circling approach as the ILS RWY has 18 kn tailwind, all followed by a nice go-around in obstacle filled environment, just forgot, the gear may not retract after go-around......
What a completely pointless exercise. What's the point of loading someone up to breaking point with a totally unrealistic sequence of events. What if the guy looses it - totally negative, confidence damaged. Perhaps whoever thought of it feels big and clever

A4
A4 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.