Air Atlanta Icelandic

[aba71]

Shortly afterwards we signed a contract with Lufthansa, Cargolux, Virgin Atlantic, Malasyan, Saudia, Garuda.

And at one point the Titanic was afloat.......
Correct me if im wrong, but didnt AAI loose Lufthansa, Virgin and Garuda b'coz of terrible performance?
This thread will go on forever. Some bitchin about conditions, some proclaiming AAI's success..
Me for one are happy to be out of there, even though I did have some great times there, and that was all thanks to some fine crews i had a chance to work with.. The company itself is a disgrace...

That said,

Happy flying everyone

[UFGBOY]

Aai/ Britannia

They did have contract in if my memory serves me 1996 with L10-11 at MAN; they also used to bring a B747 up from STN for the weekend for coverage as well

[411A]

They did have contract in if my memory serves me 1996 with L10-11 at MAN; they also used to bring a B747 up from STN for the weekend for coverage as well

And 1997, and two dedicated L10 aircraft in 1998, at MAN.
Then, then axe fell on their maintenance due to the UKCAA action, and Britannia bolted in '99, and leased from Aer Turas...I know because I flew the airplane.
Freightops is full of horsepucky...nothing new there.

[Whiskery]

...............axe fell on their maintenance due to the UKCAA action,

We'll have to start calling you Bob the Bullhitter. As I have told you before, there was nothing came out of that action because the whistleblowers were compulsive lyers and disgruntled ex-AAI staffers. AAI ended up with a nice compensation cheque, compliments of the UK taxpayers and it was business as usual.

You just never seem to get your facts straight....and to quote your goodself...............

...nothing new there.

[411A]

....and it was business as usual.

Without the two aircraft Britannia contract, the following year, which went bye-bye.
AAI has always had problems with their maintenance support, and I suspect it hasen't changed one bit, now.
Codheads in charge, expect poor results.

[oceancrosser]

From 411A:

SVA is done for them, not much else is left.

I have no connections to AAI except knowing a few guys flying there, but
is that why they apparently have 11 airplanes flying Hajj for SVA this year?

Referring to 411A´s posts in general, his posts on this thread appear to be the usual drivel.

[411A]

but
...is that why they apparently have 11 airplanes flying Hajj for SVA this year?

Hajj is a different matter altogether, oceancrosser (as you may or may not know...more than likely, not) however, the true test of AAI flying for SVA will come next year.
SaudiArabia has a brand new aircarrier with 744 equipment, which will eat into AAI's business greatly.
I expect there will be no longer-term contracts in Saudi for AAI, and their Hajj business will likely decrease as well.
Those foreign airlines that are counting on long term business from SVA had better make different plans....sooner rather than later.

[tiger19]

this new Saudi Airline must be close to a start as a mate of mine who was flying B747-4's for Oasis out of Hong Kong has just started with this Saudi mob.

[411A]

They have started flying already, as their AOC was issued October 5.

[dynasty744]

Well with the 3 passenger 400's that AAI have added to the SV contract this month, along with the 2 cargo 400's already there and another to arrive early next year, I'd say things were looking pretty good for AAI in the Kingdom.

[411A]

I'd say things were looking pretty good for AAI in the Kingdom.

Watch the next eight months carefully, as many changes are afoot at SaudiArabian Airlines....and not to the advantage of leased-in equipment.

[hoover1]

what do you guys hear of that AAI bought 49% of a U.S. company called xtra Airways that operates b737. I think that AAI is going to put a 747-200F on their certificate.

[dynasty744]

Watch the next eight months carefully

8 months!! In the world of contract flying I would say that is later rather than sooner

[mutt]

411A is actually right, SVA will attempt to get rid of ALL leased passenger aircraft by summer 2011, at that stage they will have about 40x A320 and 6x A330's on the apron.

Hajj operations are different as they are a short term requirement, the cargo aircraft will most probably stay due to the IPO.

AlWafeer commenced operations on the 20th Oct but they arent flying for SVA...... Edited to say that they arent flying, both aircraft are on Apron 11, one still with the MH registration......

Mutt

[Freightops]

Contracts

A411, MUTT and aba71
You have no idea how long contracts AAI has with SAUDIA or other carriers.
You are just 3 unhappy guys with no life other than bitch about AAI.
You wont listen to reason nor facts.
Those statements you have are only wishful thoughts of 3 men who have obviously not gotten over AAI.

Air Atlanta has always completed contracts until its expiry and if they have not been renewed its for commercial reasons. Except for Virgin and Iberia after 9/11

As for the Icelandic economy. Its in a lot better shape than many western countries. However its not looking good for USA these days a bankrupt goverment living of the Chineese running 2 wars. A411 its better to think before talk. For my friends the British its not looking good either if you read FT today. Dont misunderstand me because it gives me no pleasure knowing of other peoples misery unlike some people.

To all my other collegues and friends at AAI I wish you a good and successful hajj. The others go on with your lifes.

[411A]

You have no idea how long contracts AAI has with SAUDIA ...
You are just 3 unhappy guys with no life other than bitch about AAI.
You wont listen to reason nor facts.
Those statements you have are only wishful thoughts of 3 men who have obviously not gotten over AAI.

Hmmm, the above referenced poster is clearly and totally in the dark....

[mutt]

You have no idea how long contracts AAI has with SAUDIA

I suggest you read my post again, I didn't particularly mentioned AAI, I said that SVA were aiming to get rid of ALL LEASED PASSENGER AIRCRAFT! I also gave you the courtesy of explaining WHY this is possible!

Finally, what on earth makes you think that I have ever worked for AAI?

Mutt

[fergineer]

freightops......mutt is a legend on Saudi ops and anything he says is about as closer to the truth as it can get......he offers advice to anyone and as I say gives it freely. I would believe anything he says about Saudi ops.

[747guru]

Economy

Freightops

At the risk of "thread creep"....

Not sure which economic articles you have been reading in the FT, but the article I read this week reported on McDonald's Hamburger Chain pulling out of Iceland due to the weak Krona.....I am struggling to think of another country in the world where McDonald's has pulled the plug?

I am not sure this is an endorsement of Icelandic economic strength???

Perhaps one reason why AAI has survived the economic storm so far, is down to the fact that like most aviation companies, their income is in USD, but they pay their (well paid?)Icelandic crew members in the extremely weak Krona, therefore advantageous for the company?

[Bealzebub]

Not sure which economic articles you have been reading in the FT, but the article I read this week reported on McDonald's Hamburger Chain pulling out of Iceland due to the weak Krona.....I am struggling to think of another country in the world where McDonald's has pulled the plug?

McDonalds haven't done anything. Many of their restaurants (all 3 in Iceland) are franchises, and the Icelandic franchisee is terminating the agreement, citing the high cost of having to import most of the ingredients from Germany. It isn't the first time something similar has happened, it also happened in Barbados and Bolivia for economic reasons, as well as Bermuda, Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago.