Astraeus recruitment policy
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Astraeus recruitment policy
Reportedly, XL pilots are displacing Astraeus pilots on a merged seniority list at Astraeus. Redundancies are allegedly taking place. Any truth in this rumour?
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Oh Lordy!
Whoa! I simply asked if this rumour was true...I did not invent said rumour. In fact, I heard from someone that the 2 companies (one company now) share/d Icelandic ownership, but can hardly reconcile that with merged seniority lists. The idea stinks.
Anyway, I will be glad if this rumour has no basis, in which case the thread will die a death. But having been on the receiving end of seniority-based skullduggery myself in the past, I am cautious not to underestimate the potential nastiness of airline management.
And no need to be so impolite Rainboe. You must be so blissful!
Anyway, I will be glad if this rumour has no basis, in which case the thread will die a death. But having been on the receiving end of seniority-based skullduggery myself in the past, I am cautious not to underestimate the potential nastiness of airline management.
And no need to be so impolite Rainboe. You must be so blissful!
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Did aeu employ some experienced type-rated contract pilots at some of its summer bases? Perhaps xl recruits are replacing some of these non-permanent staff as aircraft move around, mainly back to uk.
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Well in a period of speculation and rumour, these things happen.
Astraeus recruited some temporary contract people at the beginning of the Summer. Depending on the level of winter requirement we may or may not extend their contracts.
We are finalising our fleet plans for next summer, and that will determine our recruitment policy for this winter. It is fair to say we will not need FEWER pilots , at this stage.
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Astraeus recruited some temporary contract people at the beginning of the Summer. Depending on the level of winter requirement we may or may not extend their contracts.
We are finalising our fleet plans for next summer, and that will determine our recruitment policy for this winter. It is fair to say we will not need FEWER pilots , at this stage.
Thread title changed to better reflect the actual discussion.
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I didn't realise trying to answer a query would enmesh one in the internal politics of another company. I don't understand how it is expected that command slots in one company should be taken by a different company. It is obviously out of my area of competence! I shall remove my posts. It is profoundly nothing to do with me anyway- I thought the point of the thread was about XL pilots- it appears I picked up the wrong end of a very murky stick! 'Nothing to do with me Guv'nor!'
However, a short pause for thought leads one to this: BMI is operating a full schedule with all the BMI and BMED planes. In addition, another company is operating some services unable to be adequately operating by Airbus, but BMI is still operating its full schedule with its own crews. Were a matching number of BMI airframes grounded or disposed of to allow another company to op some routes on behalf of BMI, then I could see the point, but BMI is operating a full program of its own plus another company operating extra services. How does this lead to command slots in the other company being taken by BMI pilots? If the other company were to not operate those services, the actual sphere of BMI would be smaller. What about pilots flying for the other company? It's not as clear cut as one would think.
If you think a Scope agreement is cast-iron, ask BA pilots about the strength of it.
However, a short pause for thought leads one to this: BMI is operating a full schedule with all the BMI and BMED planes. In addition, another company is operating some services unable to be adequately operating by Airbus, but BMI is still operating its full schedule with its own crews. Were a matching number of BMI airframes grounded or disposed of to allow another company to op some routes on behalf of BMI, then I could see the point, but BMI is operating a full program of its own plus another company operating extra services. How does this lead to command slots in the other company being taken by BMI pilots? If the other company were to not operate those services, the actual sphere of BMI would be smaller. What about pilots flying for the other company? It's not as clear cut as one would think.
If you think a Scope agreement is cast-iron, ask BA pilots about the strength of it.
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